sup talk - Sep 2010 - Trying sup with gmail

Hello,

I am trying to use sup for the first time and am having some
difficulties. ?I currently use gmail, so I am trying to add it as a
source. ?The new user guide[1] states that I could use either
sup-config or sup-add to add an IMAP source, which is what I have
tried. ? Unfortunately, sup-add refuses to recognize imap[s].

? ?[davidjh at nyx (master; ruby-1.8.7-p302)] ~
? ?$ sup --version
? ?sup v0.11

? ?[davidjh at nyx (master; ruby-1.8.7-p302)] ~
? ?$ sup-add --help
? ?Adds a source to the Sup source list.

? ?Usage:
? ? ?sup-add [options] <source uri>+

? ?where <source uri>+ is one or more source URIs.

? ?For mbox files on local disk, use the form:
? ? ? ?mbox:<path to mbox file>, or
? ? ? ?mbox://<path to mbox file>

? ?For Maildir folders, use the form:
? ? ? ?maildir:<path to Maildir directory>; or
? ? ? ?maildir://<path to Maildir directory>

? ?Options are:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?--archive, -a: ? Automatically archive all new
messages from these sources.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?--unusual, -u: ? Do not automatically poll these
sources for new messages.
? ? ? ? ? ? --labels, -l <s>: ? A comma-separated set of labels to
apply to all messages from this source
? ? ? ? ? ? ?--force-new, -f: ? Create a new account for this source,
even if one already exists.
? ? ?--force-account, -o <s>: ? Reuse previously defined account user at
hostname.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?--version, -v: ? Print version and exit
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --help, -h: ? Show this message

? ?[davidjh at nyx (master; ruby-1.8.7-p302)] ~
? ?$ sup-add imaps://imap.google.com
? ?Error: Unknown source type "imaps".
? ?Try --help for help.
? ?[Wed Sep 01 11:36:48 -0700 2010] Flushing Xapian updates to disk.
This may take a while...

? ?[davidjh at nyx (master; ruby-1.8.7-p302)] ~
? ?$ sup-add imap://imap.google.com
? ?Error: Unknown source type "imap".
? ?Try --help for help.
? ?[Wed Sep 01 11:36:51 -0700 2010] Flushing Xapian updates to disk.
This may take a while...


Checking the source, it seems adding imap sources was removed around
February, in commit 5bb1b3a29bc434c006ce0f4886059de3fa0d9801. ?There
is a brief note about using offlineimap, but not much more.


Is it possible to add gmail as a source in the current version of sup,
and if so what is the recommended way of doing this? ?I am quite happy
to RTFM if somebody could kindly point me towards the FM I must R. ?It
is fine if the answer is IMAP is basically not supported, but if I
read up on offlineimap I can find a way to get a non-imap (mbox,
maildir?) interface, but at the moment it feels as if I am just going
in the wrong direction.

[1] http://sup.rubyforge.org/NewUserGuide.txt

--
med v?nlig h?lsning
David J. Hamilton

Excerpts from David J. Hamilton''s message of Wed Sep 01 14:55:26 -0400
2010:
> Is it possible to add gmail as a source in the current version of sup,
> and if so what is the recommended way of doing this? ?I am quite happy
> to RTFM if somebody could kindly point me towards the FM I must R. ?It
> is fine if the answer is IMAP is basically not supported, but if I
> read up on offlineimap I can find a way to get a non-imap (mbox,
> maildir?) interface, but at the moment it feels as if I am just going
> in the wrong direction.
My understanding is that IMAP is not supported any more by sup (I''ve
never used IMAP sources, so I could be wrong about this).

I use both Gmail and MS Exchange with sup, using fetchmail and
maildrop to fetch the mail and store it locally.  (I use msmtp to
send mail.)

I tried offlineimap for a while.  I know it''s popular, but I abandoned
it because I was having problems with messages being moved from one
maildir to another.  I was definitely having this problem with
Exchange, and it seemed to be related to deleted messages.  I can''t
remember if I was having this problem with Gmail; probably not.

In any case, fetchmail and maildrop seem very solid.  They don''t give
you the ability to sync changes back to the IMAP server, but I never
needed that feature, and my understanding is that sup doesn''t quite
support that yet anyway (or maybe it''s experimental?).

Hi David,

Excerpts from David J. Hamilton''s message of 2010-09-01 20:55:26
+0200:
> Is it possible to add gmail as a source in the current version of sup,
> and if so what is the recommended way of doing this? ?I am quite happy
You can have a look at http://anirudhsanjeev.org/temp/supsite/ which explains
how to set up sup with gmail.

Best regards,
Michael