sup talk - Jun 2010 - error when sending mail

Hi,


When sending mail, I get this warning:

WARNING: Problem sending mail: File or folder does not exist -
<path/to/maildir/sent/folder>/tmp/1275359009.7145703845.sysopweg:2,S

However, the mail was sent (and did arrive), but it was not saved as a 
sent messages in my sent-mail maildir folder (which is totally empty).

Any ideas about how to solve/diagnose this?


TIA,

Erik

Excerpts from Erik Quaeghebeur''s message of Mon May 31 22:42:49 -0400
2010:
> WARNING: Problem sending mail: File or folder does not exist -
> <path/to/maildir/sent/folder>/tmp/1275359009.7145703845.sysopweg:2,S
Sup version?  Ruby version?

That''ll help get the ball rolling for diagnosing things.

Thanks
-Ben

-- 
Ben Walton
Systems Programmer - CHASS
University of Toronto
C:416.407.5610 | W:416.978.4302

> Excerpts from Erik Quaeghebeur''s message of Mon May 31 22:42:49
-0400 2010:
>
> > WARNING: Problem sending mail: File or folder does not exist -
> >
<path/to/maildir/sent/folder>/tmp/1275359009.7145703845.sysopweg:2,S
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Ben Walton wrote:
>
> Sup version?  Ruby version?
sup v0.11 (installed the gem)

ruby 1.8.7 (2010-01-10 patchlevel 249) [x86_64-linux] (ubuntu packages)

Excerpts from Erik Quaeghebeur''s message of Mon May 31 22:42:49 -0400
2010:
> WARNING: Problem sending mail: File or folder does not exist -
> <path/to/maildir/sent/folder>/tmp/1275359009.7145703845.sysopweg:2,S
Is the above <path/to/maildir/...> bit something you did or is it
actually part of the error message?  What is the value of sent_source
in your config.yaml?
> However, the mail was sent (and did arrive), but it was not saved as
> a sent messages in my sent-mail maildir folder (which is totally
> empty).
This is normal.

Thanks
-Ben
-- 
Ben Walton
Systems Programmer - CHASS
University of Toronto
C:416.407.5610 | W:416.978.4302

> Excerpts from Erik Quaeghebeur''s message of Mon May 31 22:42:49
-0400 2010:
>
>> WARNING: Problem sending mail: File or folder does not exist -
>>
<path/to/maildir/sent/folder>/tmp/1275359009.7145703845.sysopweg:2,S
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Ben Walton wrote:
>
> Is the above <path/to/maildir/...> bit something you did or is it
> actually part of the error message?  What is the value of sent_source
> in your config.yaml?
<path/to/maildir/sent/folder> is what I replaced the actual path given in 
the error message with (it was /home/equaeghe/Mail/sent); it now does seem 
a useless modification

:sent_source: maildir:/home/equaeghe/Mail/sent
>> However, the mail was sent (and did arrive), but it was not saved as
>> a sent messages in my sent-mail maildir folder (which is totally
>> empty).
>
> This is normal.
Ah. Can I change it so that it does save sent mails? Or should I 
explicitly set Fcc when sending mail?


Best,

Erik

Excerpts from Erik Quaeghebeur''s message of Wed Jun 02 10:03:19 -0400
2010:
> <path/to/maildir/sent/folder> is what I replaced the actual path
> given in the error message with (it was /home/equaeghe/Mail/sent);
> it now does seem a useless modification
And a dumb question from me: /home/equaeghe/Mail/sent does contain the
maildir subfolders cur, new and tmp?
> :sent_source: maildir:/home/equaeghe/Mail/sent
Ok, this looks fine as long as /home/equaeghe/Mail/sent is a proper
maildir setup.
> > This is normal.
> 
> Ah. Can I change it so that it does save sent mails? Or should I 
> explicitly set Fcc when sending mail?
Sorry, I meant normal in the sense that sending the mail and storing
mail in the sent source are two separate (non-atomic) actions.  When
you hit the send key, the message is dumped into $sendmail for
transport.  It''s then written to the sent source.  These are
independent.  One may succeed while the other fails.

Thanks
-Ben

-- 
Ben Walton
Systems Programmer - CHASS
University of Toronto
C:416.407.5610 | W:416.978.4302

On 2010-06-02 at 10:08 -0400, Ben Walton wrote:
>> :sent_source: maildir:/home/equaeghe/Mail/sent
>
> Ok, this looks fine as long as /home/equaeghe/Mail/sent is a proper
> maildir setup.
Just a guess, but according to NewUserGuide.txt the mailbox
URIs start with maildir:// or mbox://.  Therefore try:

    :sent_source: maildir:///home/equaeghe/Mail/sent

Note the two extra slashes.

HTH,
Sebastian

> Excerpts from Erik Quaeghebeur''s message of Wed Jun 02 10:03:19
-0400 2010:
>
>> <path/to/maildir/sent/folder> is what I replaced the actual path
>> given in the error message with (it was /home/equaeghe/Mail/sent);
>> it now does seem a useless modification
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Ben Walton wrote:
>
> And a dumb question from me: /home/equaeghe/Mail/sent does contain the
> maildir subfolders cur, new and tmp?
I did not and that fixed it. I assumed those would be created as-needed.


Thanks,

Erik

Excerpts from Erik Quaeghebeur''s message of Wed Jun 02 15:52:53 -0400
2010:
> > And a dumb question from me: /home/equaeghe/Mail/sent does contain the
> > maildir subfolders cur, new and tmp?
> 
> I did not and that fixed it. I assumed those would be created as-needed.
This likely stems from the sup philosophy of being a read-only tool
(sent being an exception).  I think this should be changed...maybe
only for the source designated as Sent?  Thoughts?

Thanks
-Ben
-- 
Ben Walton
Systems Programmer - CHASS
University of Toronto
C:416.407.5610 | W:416.978.4302