sup talk - Oct 2009 - labels-before-subject and ask_for_contacts config knobs

hey,

First, 0.9 is nice, thanks for that.

I want to ask the list about a thing (2 things actually, since 0.9) that has
been bugging me.

ask_for_contacts is loading 10 contacts from index, imho this doesn''t
make a sane default (it''s too low). I''ve always patched this
to 500 on my end - yes, it takes a second or two to load that many contacts from
index but this doesn''t bug me as much as first looking up the person
and then composing to him.

second, since labels-before-subject was integrated, it''s hard to follow
thread index on small screen. Most of my inbox is tagged with 3 labels,
mailing-list could be tagged with up to 5 labels. The problem is especially bad
on very small screens (like mobiles with ssh clients).

I''m tempted to submit a patch that enables to tune these behaviors via
config. I don''t find these hook-worthy as first is just a integer
(default must stay reasonably low for people with slower computers) and second
only makes sense together with full thread-index line customization
(I''m not sure about the performance impact or complexity it might
bring).

Anyone else sharing my view or I just keep patching on my end? :)

-- 
tarko

On 3.10.2009, Tarko Tikan wrote:
> second, since labels-before-subject was integrated, it''s hard to
follow thread
> index on small screen. Most of my inbox is tagged with 3 labels,
mailing-list
> could be tagged with up to 5 labels. The problem is especially bad on very
> small screens (like mobiles with ssh clients).
If you search through the archives you should find a patch I submitted
for an alternate view. The default alternate view I find very good on
smaller devices and its configurable via a hook if you want anything
more. Not sure if its going to get integrated into sup though
(Any thoughts William? - I can resubmit if necessary)

You would need to change the keypress from "~" to something that isnt
taken (currently thats taken as a console view).

HTH

Marcus

Reformatted excerpts from Tarko Tikan''s message of
2009-10-03:
> ask_for_contacts is loading 10 contacts from index, imho this
doesn''t
> make a sane default (it''s too low). I''ve always patched
this to 500 on
> my end - yes, it takes a second or two to load that many contacts from
> index but this doesn''t bug me as much as first looking up the
person
> and then composing to him.
Yeah, this number should be increased. Unfortunately the time required
is tied to your index size and your machine, and 500 is way too slow for
me.

There are actually two numbers: the number of initial contacts, and the
number that gets added when you press "M". I''ve changed the
first to (2
* # of screen rows) and the second to 100.  Hopefully that''s a little
more usable to you.
-- 
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>

Reformatted excerpts from Marcus Williams''s message of
2009-10-04:
> If you search through the archives you should find a patch I submitted
> for an alternate view. The default alternate view I find very good on
> smaller devices and its configurable via a hook if you want anything
> more. Not sure if its going to get integrated into sup though (Any
> thoughts William? - I can resubmit if necessary)
I''m a little wary of starting down the slippery slope of a million
different screen configurations, but maybe it''s ok to have a
"small
screen mode". Is that what the alternate view is for?
-- 
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>

On 12.10.2009, William Morgan wrote:
> I''m a little wary of starting down the slippery slope of a million
> different screen configurations, but maybe it''s ok to have a
"small
> screen mode". Is that what the alternate view is for?
Thats certainly what I use it for. The default "alternative" is just
to strip authors/dates from the index view (see screenshot). A hook
allows you to do what you want with it (like remove the labels). Its
only toggleable via a keypress currently, but I find it useful on a
smaller screen.

If you''re happy with it I might change the default alternative view to
not include labels (or maybe move them to the end of the subject)
before resubmission. My hooked version doesnt bother displaying the
labels at all.

Marcus
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