william, thanks again for all the work on sup! i''m looking forward to trying it on my actual mail once a system for physically deleting sup-deleted messages is in place. in the meantime, i checked out the todo list, and am glad to see so many of my wishes already there! :) just to add some ideas, here are a few things i would miss from mutt: - the ability to pipe a message to a process. i often use this, for example, to run a message through urlview to get a list of urls to launch in a browser. - an equivalent to mutt''s display_filter. i like to have messages run through my own filter before they''re displayed on the screen. i think sup''s method of collapsing comments and signatures works beautifully, but it can''t catch everything. for example, i like to remove the ads at the bottoms of yahoo! group posts and ridiculously long signatures about "this message was sent by an employee of yada yada and was intended for foo foo, if it was sent to you in error, please blah blah blah". - gpg support would be nice someday. :) again, best wishes for your work. i think it has terrific potential. sincerely, -- jeff covey http://jeffcovey.net/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 229 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/sup-talk/attachments/20070516/aa747200/attachment.bin
Hi Jeff, Excerpts from jeff covey''s message of Wed May 16 10:44:51 -0700 2007:> thanks again for all the work on sup!You''re welcome, and thanks for the positive comments. Keeps me motivated. :)> just to add some ideas, here are a few things i would miss from mutt: > > - the ability to pipe a message to a process.Sounds good. Should be pretty easy to do.> - an equivalent to mutt''s display_filter. > > i like to have messages run through my own filter before they''re displayed > on the screen. i think sup''s method of collapsing comments and signatures > works beautifully, but it can''t catch everything. for example, i like to > remove the ads at the bottoms of yahoo! group posts and ridiculously long > signatures about "this message was sent by an employee of yada yada and > was intended for foo foo, if it was sent to you in error, please blah blah > blah".This should''nt be hard to do either, but the question is whether we should just improve the signature detection in Sup. Do you use this for other things?> - gpg support would be nice someday. :)Someone is actually working on this right now! -- William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
on Wed, May 16, 2007 at 12:36:22PM -0700%, William Morgan said:> > - an equivalent to mutt''s display_filter. > > This should''nt be hard to do either, but the question is whether we should > just improve the signature detection in Sup.no, there''s no way to make the signature detection handle all the arbitrary problems that people present in their messages. some of them just have to be handled manually on a case-by-case basis. for example, one of the regular posters on one mailing list i read considers this a valid signature (and doesn''t demarcate it with "-- "):> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > VISTA SOFTWARE, DESIGNED TO RESTRICT WHAT YOU CAN DO. www.badvista.org > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve Neither liberty nor safety", Benjamin Franklin > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > ASCII Ribbon Campaign. . . . . . . . . . . . accessBob > .NO HTML/PDF/RTF/MIME in e-mail. . . . . . . accessys at smartnospam.net > .NO MSWord docs in e-mail . . . .. . . . . . Access Systems, engineers > .NO attachments in e-mail, .*LINUX powered*. access is a civil right > *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# > THIS message and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be > privileged. They are intended ONLY for the individual or entity namedno poor regexp should be taxed with handling things like this.> Do you use this for other things?i do assorted minor cleanup and generally remove things i don''t need to see. i''ll attach the script i use, based on one from a friend. i don''t know what other people do with it, but i imagine some people format messages with par and otherwise make other people''s mail look like what they would want to send themselves. i find it a very useful feature for limiting what''s displayed on the screen to just the meaningful information. for a thread-based display like sup''s, i think it would be doubly useful when dealing with screens full of replies. i wouldn''t want to scroll past bob''s signature again and again.> > - gpg support would be nice someday. :) > > Someone is actually working on this right now!awesome! :) thanks, -- jeff covey http://jeffcovey.net/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: display_filter.sh Type: application/x-sh Size: 3000 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/sup-talk/attachments/20070518/01d411d9/attachment.sh -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 229 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/sup-talk/attachments/20070518/01d411d9/attachment.bin
Excerpts from jeff covey''s message of Fri May 18 06:39:09 -0700 2007:> no, there''s no way to make the signature detection handle all the arbitrary > problems that people present in their messages. some of them just have to > be handled manually on a case-by-case basis. for example, one of the > regular posters on one mailing list i read considers this a valid signature > (and doesn''t demarcate it with "-- "):Ok. Clearly you have a lot of special-purpose filtering which wouldn''t make sense to have in Sup. To the extent that Sup can catch general cases, I''d like to do that there, but I certainly don''t have any problems with an external display_filter-type functionality. -- William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>