Ok, I made my own sample HTML page and it worked on a vorbis OGG file that I embedded. No need to download a player (other than the directshow filter if it isn't already installed) and no need to download sample. It just played within the browser. I should probably try to release a podcast like this at 16 kbps and see how well it's received. -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marc Valin [mailto:jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:17 AM To: George Ou Cc: speex-dev@xiph.org Subject: Re: [Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex? George Ou wrote:> Ah, but speex.org should lead by example. Instead of posting wav > files, why not post the actual speex files as well? Then make it > plaingly obvious for people to download the plugins with links to the pageyou just posted. I post wav files for the same reason people have screenshots. Sure, I could download OpenOffice and try it, but it's nice to be able to click and see a screenshot before downloading anything. Plus if people are going to download Speex anyway, they don't need my samples because they can make their own. Jean-Marc
Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves
2006-Oct-03 03:19 UTC
[Speex-dev] How to get podcasters to adopt Speex?
On 10/3/06, George Ou <george_ou@lanarchitect.net> wrote:> I should probably try to release a podcast like this at > 16 kbps and see how well it's received.You do that. Keep in mind that you'll probably need to provide an explanation to your readers. Oh, and be kind enough to tell us how well it went. On 10/3/06, Jean-Marc Valin <jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca> wrote:> I post wav files for the same reason people have screenshots. Sure, I could > download OpenOffice and try it, but it's nice to be able to click and see a > screenshot before downloading anything. Plus if people are going to download > Speex anyway, they don't need my samples because they can make their own.I'm afraid that kind of logic is flawed and won't apply in this area, but do as you will. -Ivo
I tend to agree, it would definately be good to have a range of samples in speex format available on the website. It's obviously quite confusing to some people, since they expect to find sample speex files but there is .wav files. It is also handy when someone wants to test if their player is installed properly or working. I figure, how can it hurt to provide a few samples. Would be even nicer particularly for developers to have a set of samples which exercise the full range of settings and features :) Zen. Ivo Emanuel Gon?alves wrote:> On 10/3/06, George Ou <george_ou@lanarchitect.net> wrote: >> I should probably try to release a podcast like this at >> 16 kbps and see how well it's received. > > You do that. Keep in mind that you'll probably need to provide an > explanation to your readers. Oh, and be kind enough to tell us how > well it went. > > On 10/3/06, Jean-Marc Valin <jean-marc.valin@usherbrooke.ca> wrote: >> I post wav files for the same reason people have screenshots. Sure, I >> could >> download OpenOffice and try it, but it's nice to be able to click and >> see a >> screenshot before downloading anything. Plus if people are going to >> download >> Speex anyway, they don't need my samples because they can make their >> own. > > I'm afraid that kind of logic is flawed and won't apply in this area, > but do as you will. > > -Ivo > _______________________________________________ > Speex-dev mailing list > Speex-dev@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/speex-dev >
The other side of "get podcasters to use Speex" is Speex and OGG support in their recording tools. Most of the applications linked from the web page are internet telephone/voip apps, are there any other recording and editing apps that could go there? Audacity can export an OGG, but I don't think it can encode with Speex, that would be an extremely useful tool if it did. Reed