similar to: Ogg/Kate, a karaoke and text codec for embedding in Ogg

Hi, I've now uploaded the preliminary documentation on the xiph wiki: http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/OggKate Attached is the current source tree for the libkate library. The tarball also contains the patch to oggmerge (which you will need to apply if you want to merge Kate streams with Vorbis or Theora streams) and the patch to MPlayer to use Kate streams as subtitles. An example is

On 14/01/2008, ogg.k.ogg.k@googlemail.com <ogg.k.ogg.k@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm not sure what the right place would be, please direct me to where is > most appropriate if not this list. Hi, yes this is an appropriate list. > I am currently working on a codec designed for karaoke and text information, > to be embedded > in an Ogg container. It

Thanks for the feedback, > I have looked into the patch. It doesn't take into consideration > neither Skeleton, which is used now in pretty much everything encoded > in Ogg (except for single stream Vorbis and Speex files), nor the file > extension for Theora, which is now .ogv. To be honest, I just added Theora because I needed a simple way to multiplex streams. Also, it'd

> > I did see references to Skeleton, I'll have a look at it. I didn't > > realize it was used widely > > It's not widely used currently. The idea is to make that happen. Oh, I get you now. > CMML does of course other things besides subtitles. Subtitle support > was pretty much just added recently. Kate however does not seem to > offer more than CMML in

Hi, I recognize the main name behind CMML here :) Does the redesigning of CMML allow overlapping clips ? This is the main reason of my current ramblings about seeking. While karaoke was one of the initial goals behind kate, it is just a way the format can be used with (in fact, the format itself does not refer to karaoke at all, but styles and motions). At the moment, it is a fairly versatile

On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:01:11 +1000 Silvia Pfeiffer <silvia at silvia-pfeiffer.de> wrote: > Hi BCXA, > > CMML is deprecated. You should use KATE instead. > > Cheers, > Silvia. ok i admit this statement came as a surprise for me. cmml is about metadate/annotations, how can it be replaced by KATE ( which is mainly about subtitles as far as i can see? startx

On 16/01/2008, Ivo Emanuel Gon?alves <justivo@gmail.com> wrote: > > * I agree that CMML is complex for something as simple as karaoke, but I disagree that karaoke is simple; to do karaoke properly is about as complex as text codecs get. I also disagree that CMML is complex, but I may be mistaken. In terms of complexity, I see it as about 10% of the way between using zero-markup and

Hey, On 1/15/08, ogg.k.ogg.k@googlemail.com <ogg.k.ogg.k@googlemail.com> wrote: > I've now uploaded the preliminary documentation on the xiph wiki: > http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/OggKate Really nice work, by the way. > The tarball also contains the patch to oggmerge (which you will need > to apply if you want to merge Kate streams with Vorbis or Theora streams) I have

On 1/16/08, ogg.k.ogg.k@googlemail.com <ogg.k.ogg.k@googlemail.com> wrote: > Also, it'd likely take a rewrite of oggmerge to make it > usable for multiplexed streams, I think it assumes a single logical stream > per physical stream, though I didn't have an in-depth look at this issue. You are likely correct. > I did see references to Skeleton, I'll have a look at

> Some of the things you talk about were not solved at the CMML level, but > rather through using different Ogg > logical bitstreams. While this is possible to do it this way (and probably a good idea for the examples like a clock in a corner), it implies that all the placements and logically different "items" are known at the start of the stream (since the Ogg spec says a

I'm trying to create files that contain a video stream, one or more audio streams, subtitles, and DVD-like chapter information. ATM, I use ogm containers that can handle all this. But although ogm is supported e.g. by xine (including chapters), it seems to be an unofficial hack. Is that correct? I'd like to move to ogg containers, since ogm doesn't support theora videos. My final

Ok guys, I just committed the Ogg MIDI code to ogg-tools/oggmerge. You can now make synced vorbis+midi Oggs, but there is (not yet anyway) a tool to play such files. Have a look at the code, and let me know if you see anything major. Adding new media types for merging should be trivial, and you already have two examples (the vorbis one is VERY simple and the MIDI one is much more complicated)

On Jan 17, 2008 2:35 AM, ogg.k.ogg.k@googlemail.com < ogg.k.ogg.k@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > I did see references to Skeleton, I'll have a look at it. I didn't > > > realize it was used widely > > > > It's not widely used currently. The idea is to make that happen. > > Oh, I get you now. > > > CMML does of course other things

> not CMML, but the algorithm for remuxing from time offsets, which is > specified in the annodex Internet-Draft. This basically describes how Ah, yes, and CMML supplies a way to specify addresses which are then interpreted by this algorithm. Have I got that right ?

Hi, (odd, I did get this reply for Silvia, but not the original post) > There is CMML and kate support in vlc, and kate in mplayer though I am > not sure how it is displayed on-screen. Subtitles may display, but > chapter markers, I am not so sure about. Would you mind expanding on what chapters are, and what you'd expect to be able to do with them ? > There is an old python

Hi Developers, I am looking for one ogg file with cmml subtitle to test my subtitle code. But can not find in the web. Anyone can help me. best regards BCXA

>> (odd, I did get this reply for Silvia, but not the original post) > > Hmm, it was properly CCed to the list. Yes, I found it in the spam bucket for some reason... > Chapters are a list of timepoints stored in the metadata. They are an > information for player software that is usually used to allow the user > to jump to certain significant points within a stream. This

We have new drafts of CMML 4.0 as a text codec and ROE as an xml stream abstract, subsuming the authoring support in CMML 3.1 and earlier. Another thing we talked about at LCA is a how to specify relationships between the various streams in Ogg so that a server, muxer or player can make intelligent decisions about the contained tracks. The general idea is to use the (http-style) Message

> I'm testing this. Meanwhile, a brief question, do you really want > Kate's media type to be "application" as opposed to "text"? Thanks. About the media type, my understanding was that text was for actual text, not binary that could be decoded into text. If you think another would be more appropriate, please tell which. If it would be text/x-kate, I'd see

Hello list, We have recently introduced the codecs (optional) parameter on the Ogg media types for easier identification of encapsulated codecs in conditions were it's not feasable to examine the streams directly. I received a comment from the IESG that we should have some sort of list to describe how Ogg mapping strings translate to codec parameter strings, so I went ahead and compiled a