similar to: AEC strange behaviour

On 2010-03-16 06:35, Greger Burman wrote: > Ok. Thanks J-M for clearing that up. > What if you mix up the polarity on one speaker (180 degree phase > change), would that matter? Not at all. It's still all linear. You can even apply a different equalizer to each speaker and it'll still be linear. Jean-Marc > cheers > Greger > > 2010/3/15 Jean-Marc Valin

hi, Paul Novodon Maybe the same question happened to me some yrs ago when I was testing a PBFDAF AEC filter. Could you provide me the recorded file to me to study? Including: the working two files ( far end signal and far end echo + near end signal) the not working two files ( far end signal and far end echo + near end signal) HyeeWang > ------------------------------ >

On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Jean-Marc Valin wrote: > If more than one speaker receives the *same* signal, it doesn't matter the > number of speakers. It only gets tricky when the speakers are playing slightly > different signals (e.g. from a stereo song). > Does "tricky" mean that the Speex AEC won't handle such situations well? Or just that you had to be

On 2010-03-16 14:22, Josh Gargus wrote: >> If more than one speaker receives the *same* signal, it doesn't >> matter the number of speakers. It only gets tricky when the >> speakers are playing slightly different signals (e.g. from a stereo >> song). > > Does "tricky" mean that the Speex AEC won't handle such situations > well? Or just that you

If more than one speaker receives the *same* signal, it doesn't matter the number of speakers. It only gets tricky when the speakers are playing slightly different signals (e.g. from a stereo song). Jean-Marc Quoting Greger Burman <greger at mobile-robotics.com>: > One thing I can think of is if you are using two or more speakers. If the > speakers are not at the exact same

One thing I can think of is if you are using two or more speakers. If the speakers are not at the exact same distance from the mic, you will get more than one echo. AEC can not handle that. Try disconnecting all but one speaker and see if it makes any difference. cheers Greger 2010/3/15 Anton A. Shpakovsky <saa at tomsksoft.com> > Hello. > > I have the following situation. AEC

Ok. Thanks J-M for clearing that up. What if you mix up the polarity on one speaker (180 degree phase change), would that matter? cheers Greger 2010/3/15 Jean-Marc Valin <Jean-Marc.Valin at usherbrooke.ca> > If more than one speaker receives the *same* signal, it doesn't matter the > number of speakers. It only gets tricky when the speakers are playing > slightly >

Yes. I guessed that too, however I am not sure why it keeps repeating every time the user stops / pauses and starts speaking again in a single session. I am using a laptop with standalone speakers. For echo cancellation to work one has to make sure that the ref and echo buffers are synchronized. I guess this is the most common problem. -Elston -----Original Message----- From: Anton A.

Hello. I have the following situation. AEC is used in network chat software over DirectSound API. Echo and reference signals are almost aligned (delay is no more than 30ms). When echo is emulated in notebook (built-in speakers + mic) everything goes fine and echo is cancelled. But when configuration includes stand-alone speakers and mic no echo is removed. Audio is in 22050 hz at 16 bit

Marco, Thank you for your response. Is there a way I can determine if the synchronization is perfect or not? If not by how much it is off. - Elston -----Original Message----- From: Marco Pierleoni [mailto:pierleoni.m at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:46 PM To: Elston Sa Subject: Re: [Speex-dev] AEC - Echo is cancelled however..... Hi Helton, it is now several months that I am using

Is there an API in speex or have you implemented your own? I am currently trying to find one. But if you could point me to one it will reduce my search time. :) Many Thanks, Elston -----Original Message----- From: Marco Pierleoni [mailto:pierleoni.m at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:55 PM To: Elston Sa Cc: speex-dev at xiph.org Subject: Re: [Speex-dev] AEC - Echo is cancelled

Hello. I have the following situation. AEC is used in network chat software over DirectSound API. Echo and reference signals are almost aligned (delay is no more than 30ms). When echo is emulated in notebook (built-in speakers + mic) everything goes fine and echo is cancelled. But when configuration includes stand-alone speakers and mic no echo is removed. Audio is in 22050 hz at 16 bit mono

I usually use the cross-correlation between the speaker signal and the mic signal. It works pretty well. The problem is the you need enough data in order to get a good S/N. I compute the cross-correlation between 1.5 second data of each signals. In this way the application detection of any anomalies is quite slow. I am looking for something faster, but I fear it will be something very application

I tried cross-correlation. It does locate the sync point and it's almost perfect. I guess now I have to make it more perfect. Thanks for the pointers. On the side note: I have a test environment. Where I created the stream such a way that I have one "captured stream" purely with echo (i.e. no one else is speaking) and one stream with echo + someone speaking. I confirmed that I

Hi Anton Thanks for the info... What if I use this function do I still need to sync the playback and capture? Assuming that the captured voice (*rec) already contains the echo which I need to cancel out... -------------------------------- void speex_echo_capture (SpeexEchoState *st, const spx_int16_t *rec, spx_int16_t *out) Parameters: st Echo canceller state rec signal

2010/5/11 Elston Sa <jose at rebaca.com>: > Is there an API in speex or have you implemented your own? I don't know if there is an API in speex for this, probably not. There is a test for AEC which does something very similar. I implemented it starting from a FFT library. It is quite easy to do. > > I am currently trying to find one. But if you could point me to one it will

Hi So in your case if you don't want to use speex_echo_cancellation than you should do next way: Save the playback frames (clean echo) within separate playback thread with speex_echo_playback func. Then use speex_echo_capture - it will remove the clean echo frame (saved with speex_echo_playback func) from const spx_int16_t *rec buffer (saved with speex_echo_capture) and you will get

Well, I'm not a professional in AEC theory, but what I've mentioned is: speex_echo_state_init(20, 320*10) - frame size should correspond to 20ms. At your sampling rate (16000hz) is should be 16K*0.02 = 320. The same I can notice about echo tail. 100ms: 16000*0.3 = 4800, not 3200 as you has. But that's not crucial I think. Just wanna you get the point. "Internally,

Sorry, I've forgot to mention init params: Frame_size is 441 samples and filter_length is 4096. ..don't think it makes any sense though.. Regards, Anton A. Shpakovsky From: speex-dev-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:speex-dev-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Anton A. Shpakovsky Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:15 PM To: speex-dev at xiph.org Subject: [Speex-dev] AEC init crashes

Anton A. Shpakovsky <saa <at> tomsksoft.com> writes: > > As for me - speex_echo_cancellation is a better choise. Try using it in > capture thread instead > of those speex_echo_capture and speex_echo_playback functions. > > And please, describe your problem in details. Cause the fact that you > "didn get echo cancellation" > doesn't mean you are