similar to: any "standard" to map more than 6 channels?

The prospect of people actually putting B-format audio (via the panner or directly input) into Ogg/Vorbis brings an interesting challenge: What do we do with the audio after decoding it? The following sane options exist: A) Simply output the B-format audio B) Produce a downmix 1) Mono. 2) Stereo blumlein crossed pairs 3) Stereo UHJ 4) binaural C) Produce speaker feeds 1) Fully

Hello Tim and others, Thanks for your help explaining this process on IRC. I wrote out a first draft in the RFC xml format. I have attached the xml (labeled as xml.txt so it will appear inline) and the rendered txt files. Please let me know where I can make improvements. I will upload this draft to the IETF datatracker and send it out to codec@ after addressing your comments. -------------- next

>I have been giving some thought to how to include Ambisonics in Ogg Vorbis. As I understand it, mapping type = 1 was meant from the start to indicate an Ambisonic stream. The only other information required is the number of channels which thanks to Mr Leese's clever trick tells us exactly which Ambisonic channels are used up to 3rd order. __________________ >The channel coupling

It obviously would be nice to have such a mode available, for e.g. DVD audio compression. Apparently, the list doesn''t tell me too much about it. My questions are: 1. What is the current status of the 5.1 channel coupling in Vorbis? 2. If I''ll be interested in participation in its development, what is the recommended reading? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML

Hi, Has anyone thought about using the multichannel format as a way of distributing "musician minus one" files? Eh? I hear you ask. Ok. Basically these are multitrack files but you can mute the solo track so you, the musician, can practice against the other "players". You can buy CD's of this nature, but of course, the solo instrument is on one channel and the others on

Hi. I have two CDs that the artists inteded for simultaneous listening. They even provide instructions on how to start two CD players with the minimal time shift. (for those interested - the CDs are Neurosis/Times Of Grace and Tribes Of Neurot/Grace) I've heard that Vorbis can encode multiple streams. I've already encoded both albums into regular 2-channel .ogg files. The questions

>Yesterday I have finished writing the ambisonic pan filter for oggenc. May I ask what this "pan filter" is? I made some tentative suggestions for coupling Ambisonic B-format in a post "Vorbis Ambisonic coupling" on 4feb07 I gather from the last monthly meeting, that some of you, including Monty, had problems with the phase behaviour of B-format. Would anyone like a

Hello Jean-Marc, Thanks for the quick reply and comments. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Jean-Marc Valin <jmvalin at jmvalin.ca> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Here's some more minor comments below. As long as you address the two > comments from my previous email (254 -> 2 and the draft name), the draft > is good for submitting as initial version on the IETF website (even

Tim, Would you mind giving me a more specific example of the sort of document that you think this should look like? I'd like to write up something that is somewhat final. On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:30 PM, Michael Graczyk <mgraczyk at google.com> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Timothy B. Terriberry > <tterribe at xiph.org> wrote: > > As a general point,

On 2/28/07, Ivo Emanuel Gon?alves <justivo@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/28/07, Ralph Giles <giles@xiph.org> wrote: > > Well, there are todo pages at wiki.xiph.org, but I meant more in the > > community folklore sense. My point is a roadmap doesn't help much unless > > there are people committed to making things happen. That's been the > > problem with a

On 2/28/07, Ivo Emanuel Gon?alves <justivo@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/28/07, Ralph Giles <giles@xiph.org> wrote: > > Well, there are todo pages at wiki.xiph.org, but I meant more in the > > community folklore sense. My point is a roadmap doesn't help much unless > > there are people committed to making things happen. That's been the > > problem with a

I made a few updates to OggPCM2 http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/OggPCM2 reflecting the latest discussions. Could everyone have a look at it and see if they agree. Otherwise, what do you feel should be changed? Anyone wants to speak in support of chunked PCM? For all those that are just tired of this mess like me, please express yourself in the new spec I created: OggPCM3

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Timothy B. Terriberry <tterribe at xiph.org> wrote: > Jean-Marc Valin wrote: >> >> Would it make sense to allow an arbitrary number of channels and just >> "truncate" the list of channels. For example, two-channel ambisonics >> would be W plus X and three-channel would be W, X and Y. The idea is >> that you would get

Hi everyone, Over the last two weeks or so, I've been thinking about how to add surround sound to Ogg -- and more than that, to do it in the best way possible. With this in mind, I started considering using Ambisonic surround sound. The advantages of this format are considerable: a) It was developed in the early to mid '70s, so the patents should be expired by now.

In November 2005 the discussion on OggPCM2 died down before we got around to finalizing the channel map. I thought it would be a good time to resurrect the topic. The previous threads are at http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/ogg-dev/2005-November/000097.html and http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/ogg-dev/2005-November/000168.html . In draft 2 of the spec, there are two types of channel maps: a

> I that this is handled pretty nicely by the "simple map" that Sampo > suggested. This is basically the same thing as the "channel map" > described on the wiki, but with the (physical,logical) channel pair > swapped. So, using the syntax from the wiki: > channel_type = OGG_CHANNEL_MAP_STEREO > channel_map [OGG_CHANNEL_FRONT_LEFT] = 1 > channel_map

All, Progress has been made on the proposed draft spec for integrating ambisonics into vorbis. We are not yet finished (should be soon), but you can see the progress here: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=df4dtw69_3626qqq6st The issue we have hit now concerns how/who would implement the encoding and decoding in Vorbis Tools. Because ambisonics uses spherical harmonic components, an ambisonic file

On 2005-11-16, Jean-Marc Valin wrote: > Otherwise, what do you feel should be changed? One obvious thing that seems to be lacking is the granulepos mapping. As suggested in Ogg documentation, for audio a simple sampling frame number ought to suffice, but I think the convention should still be spelled out. Secondly, I'd like to see the channel map fleshed out in more detail. (Beware

Hi all, My apologies for the confusion ... but I am re-naming this thread again because the proposal doesn't come from Ambisonia. As the founder of Ambisonia I have only been 'mediating' between some members of the ambisonic community ... so it would be wrong to associate the spec with Ambisonia. To clarify. This is what the spec proposes: - that Mapping = 1 means the contents are

Where can I find the Header file or whatever which specifies the "Mapping" flag. In feb - apr 2007, there was a lot of discussion about Ambisonics and Monty kindly stated that Mapping = 1 ; Denotes and Ambisonic file as opposed to = 0 which is 1 speaker/ 1 channel Has this been written explicitly into the standard? Which standard should I be looking at?