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Taken from http://www.twice.com/html/pagebeta.cfm?InputKey=2853 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomson, Fraunhofer Developing Enhanced MP3 Codec Called mp3PRO Jan. 7, 2001 By Joseph Palenchar Las Vegas -- Thomson and the Fraunhofer Institute, the co-developers of MP3, are working with a third company to develop an improved MP3 codec intended to deliver

hi, if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro ? thank you -- Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Carsten Henkel mailto:carsten@chatlabel.de Eine gl?ckliche Frau braucht 4 Tiere: einen Jaguar in der Garage, einen Nerz im Schrank, einen Hengst im Bett und einen Esel, der alles

Greg, Yes, I have noticed that new codec.. AACPlus. Its really impressive in it's abilities, and it's sound quality. I tried to open it up with Windows Media Player and my Flash Player.. didn't seem to like it very much. While It's really kewl as a codec, and it has great support with a couple players, and limited support for the rest, I'll stick with the mainstream for now,

Sort of off topic, but I was wondering about how the SBR data factors into an mp3pro bitrate. If you encode a "64kbps" mp3pro stream, I'm guessing that 64kbps would include the SBR data. So, when played in a normal MP3 player, would a 64kbps mp3pro stream actually sound worse than a 64kbps MP3 stream? Tony Arcieri --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg

Brainstorming Idea: Possibly add an xml api to the current yp logic, that way 3rd party providers could parse the stations in the yp off icecast.org in there media players. of course a plugin for winamp would be the first obvious choice(since the already have there own media library but uses yp.shoutcast.com), but others would follow. I remember seeing something previously at dir.xiph.org but

And thats only a player. What about an (Open Source) encoder? Nah, I'll stick with OGG for the time being. Regards, Mark -- Mark de Bokx Internet Service Engineer ICT Communication and Media Services PlanetMediaGroup the Netherlands "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty not safety." --Benjamin Franklin

I was a bit confused by that statement as well Lee. I've done a bit of work with mp3PRO using a source developed from scratch and a version of the original Icecast modified only trivially to deal with specific metadata requirements. There is a very high level explanation of mp3PRO at the http://www.mp3prozone.com/basics.htm site. At the risk of being somewhat incomplete i will add: 1) The

>> Do you (or the ogg vorbis community) understand how SBR works? There is >> info on http://www.codingtechnologies.de/technology/sbr.htm >> bnut I am guessing this infop is not enough to explain the technology. Robert Voigt: >I haven't heard about SBR before. After reading that webpage I can say the >following: [ . . . ] I don't think SBR will give an

Guten Tag Geoff Shang, Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 um 13:22 schrieben Sie: GS> Carsten Henkel wrote: >> if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a >> lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro GS> MP3. LAME does not do MP3Pro. And in fact, the stream that is reencoded GS> will also only be a reencode of the

But the source computer runs the other os, so I don't have too much choice as to what I can do and the timeout problems remain with mp3 as well. The persons involved don't want to use .ogg for now so that is also not an option. Is this an icecast bug, or some other problem? on Thursday 08/14/2003 Arc(arc@indymedia.org) wrote > On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:01:11PM -0400, John Covici

Greetings, On the official documentation page, http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/docs.html, there are links to the documents describing the released libraries, ie. libvorbis, vorbisfile and vorbisenc. However, the first one is not a link at all, although I seem to remember that it was so earlier. I also downloaded the SDK for Mac OSX, which sorta contains a documentation for libvorbis, but

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, oddsock wrote: > neat, how ironic is it that you can stream mp3pro with the Shoutcast DNAS, > but their YP will not let you list if you do so...talk about your mixed > messages... I think what they're trying to do here is not only block non-SCDNAS servers, but also as many non-Shoutcast sources as they can. Think about it - if you're streaming MP3Pro without

hi folks, in my (unlucky) first test of ogg vs other encoders, i found a case where wma and mp3pro sound much better than ogg at 64k. can anyone suggest a setting that i haven't tried yet that can rival the wma and mp3pro samples at 64k? it's the "gravel effect" that is troublesome. the part in question is the first 15 seconds of this wave file:

on Friday 08/15/2003 Michael Smith(msmith@xiph.org) wrote > On Friday 15 August 2003 02:01, John Covici wrote: > > Hi. I am having a strange problem where the source times out during > > anicecast2 stream -- I was using mp3pro at 32khz and even some other > > speeds. I have set the source timeout for 1 minute, but it still > > times out or says connection reset by

If anyone is interested, mp3PRO demo is available on Coding Technologies web site: http://www.codingtechnologies.de/ Demo is a Win32 encoder/player, and it is limited to 64kbps only. I did a quick test, and it really sounds good at 64kbps (but not as good as 128kbps - we all know that was hype). SBR (Spectral Band Replication) seems to be working pretty well. Of course SBR is only used if you

A large group 64kbps listening test has just come to an end, organised through the Hydrogenaudio[1] audio discussion board (and managed expertly by Roberto Amorim). Eight codecs were tested on twelve different samples, designed to cover a wide range of musical genres. The codecs tested were[2]: * Ahead/Nero 6.0.0.15 HE AAC VBR profile Streaming * Ogg Vorbis post-1.0 CVS -q 0 * MP3pro (from

Important (imho)! I found this site in the internet: http://www.plusv.org/ PlusV is an audio enhancement algorithm similar to SRB of Mp3Pro, but 1) better than SBR 2) Fully open-source It seems to me wise to include PlusV into new versions of Ogg Vorbis. P.S. what about some long-awaited features in Ogg Vorbis? 1) ability to turn off the frequency filter in the encoder (especially for high

Hello Everyone! My name is John Silvers PD/CE of Pirate Radio 100.3FM (KQLZ Los Angeles) I wanted to introduce myself to everyone. We are switching over from our 2072 Shoutcast streams to Ogg with the help from Dave at Mediacast1. It seems mp3PRO is just not catching on but the I think the ogg sounds way better then mp3PRO and not just one player can hear the difference plus no plug-in to push

Thanks for your response oddcast. > >Range support / stream seeking seems to work with RealPlayer v10, but not > >with Winamp 5 or Windows Media Player 10. > >Does anyone else have this experience? Is there a way to make it work in > >those two players also? > hrmm..It works for me using winamp 5.05 and WMP 10. What type of file are > you testing with ? The winamp

Hi. I am having a strange problem where the source times out during anicecast2 stream -- I was using mp3pro at 32khz and even some other speeds. I have set the source timeout for 1 minute, but it still times out or says connection reset by peer. Now the strange thing is that I also had a windows media stream on the same source machine going to a wm server and it had no problems! So can someone