similar to: A comparison of VP3, and two MPEG-4 variants

Hi all, I have to compare the theora codec with MPEG and H264. I was googling and I found that the PSNR is a common used parameter. How can I do this with Theora? Thanks -- Leonardo de Paula Rosa Piga Undergraduate Computer Engineering Student LSC - IC - UNICAMP http://www.students.ic.unicamp.br/~ra033956

Hi, I have been working with VP3 for some time now. Dan Miller from On2 just told me about this list. A few months ago, I managed to get On2's VP3 source snapshot to compile under Linux, a feat that many have apparently attempted and quickly abandoned. I compiled a small console app and the results of the experiment are explained here:

Hi List, Just batting a few ideas around here, but would it be possible to include in to the codec, estimation for common video artifacts that occur in the analogue world? For example, anything that's gone through a composite stage will likely have dot-crawl and false colour - if we can recognise this effect in the encoder, we can treat it as a special case. Other artifacts that come to

As I understand it the current plan is to make it possible to losslessly transcode VP3 video to Theora video. In my experience, one of the "features" of VP3 is it drops frames in the event that there is little/no movement in a frame, or if "drop frames" is enabled, to drop frames if the data rate is getting too high. I understand that the way that VP3 does this in

Here's the problem: > 2) Encoding with rate control as in single pass "Bitrate > control" will not > lead to better quality than fixed quant (with the right value > of the fixed > quant). Ratecontrol doens't know anything about "quality". It > will try to > reach more-or-less CBR. > > But somehow this is not a fair comparison, because

Hi Guys, I was wondering what the idea behind the "Key Frame" settings are in the VP3 codec settings. As far as I could ascertain (from browsing through the source code) the VP3 codec ignores the lpbiPrev and lpPrev members of the ICCOMPRESS structure. My conclusion is thus that each frame passed to the codec is compressed individually and that the redundant information based upon

Hi, Check it out-- another update in the space of a week: http://home.pcisys.net/~melanson/codecs/vp3-format.txt v0.4: March 2, 2004 - renamed and expanded section "Initializing The Quantization Matrices" - outlined section "Reconstructing The Frame" - moved Theora Differences Appendix to its own section entitled "Theora Specification" - added Appendix:

The site: http://www.techimo.com/articles/index.pl?photo=33&SID=12&tag=SNnb323 has a review & comparison of several mpeg-4 codecs, and they also include vp3. (Be warned, it's a very big web page, due to all of the image examples!) Not really all that informative, but I thought somebody might be interested in hearing about it. *** On2 VP3 3.2.5.0 Positive: extreme low bitrate

I found out about vp3 from the new winamp and coincidentally i also happen to be trying to find a suitable solution to broadband streaming. I have used flaskmpeg to create a 17mb .avi file from an 82mb Mpeg 1 file and it looks great it took about twenty minutes to encode. It runs for eight minutes and the audio is also fantastic using the lame encoder. However when I try to do the same in

--- "Tabuleiro" wrote: Hi, guys. I was working with the VP3 code, planning to integrate it with Ogg for a self-contained solution for video playback, platform independant, no installation required, no QT, no AVI runtimes. My main interest is CD-based work using local files and portability/performance, not really into streaming or anything fancy (network error correction, prediction,

Oliver -- Your question was asked & answered on the theora@xiph.org list -- see my post: <p>-----Original Message----- From: Oliver Darvall [mailto:oliver@cura.co.za] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 2:38 AM To: theora-dev@xiph.org Subject: [theora-dev] Multiple Feed Vp3 <p>Hi, I have been using Vp3 for some time now to compress the video from a single video source. However, I

Hi, Since a number of people are eager to try out the native VP3 decoder in xine, I have made a patch available, bz2-compressed: http://www.pcisys.net/~melanson/codecs/xine-vp3-decoder-patch.bz2 To work with this patch: 1) Get the latest xine-lib from CVS. Visit this page for more details: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=9655 The module name is xine-lib, but you will also need

--- Daniel B. Miller wrote: Please, anyone who is working with VP3 codecs, get the new build as soon as possible. It's available through the normal cvs server at xiph. see: http://www.theora.org/cvs.html take the latest build, 3.2.6.1 --- end of quote --- I've run down through all of our QuickTime 6 bugs, and the VP3 source code in CVS appears to have a clean bill of health. If

Hi, A few questions: Is libtheora strictly backward compatible with VP3? Can I set it up to shove raw VP3 data through and trust it to decode the same way as On2's open source code did, loop filters and all? Also, is libtheora just supposed to be a C-based reference implementation? I was looking through the code and noticed a distinct lack of any kind of optimizations. Naive tree-based

Hi, After a quick read of the Theora spec, I became curious about the possibility of fast quality reduction of Theora videos. The idea is to decode through the Huffman and reverse prediction steps, and then to truncate the coefficients and reencode. My questions are: * Is this a reasonable way to reduce the quality and bitrate of a stream? Will it be comparable in quality to a complete

Hi, I have been on a documentation kick recently. I finally updated my VP3 format document tonight: http://www.pcisys.net/~melanson/codecs/vp3-format.txt v0.2: October 9, 2003 - expanded section "Reversing the DC Prediction" - added Appendix B: Theora Differences Feel free to look it over and point out any glaring mistakes. I can't wait to see how much sense it makes to

Hi, Can anyone tell me the significant differences between VP30 and VP31 (or are you allowed to)? Are there different token and quantizer tables? Are there algorithmic differences? I have a VP30-encoded file that plays with the VP3 VfW DLL but not with the open source decoder. Thanks... -- -Mike Melanson --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project

The vp3 / theora decoder in FFmpeg project received a major speedup: http://multimedia.cx/eggs/profiling-and-optimizing-theora/#comment-150751 http://git.ffmpeg.org/?p=ffmpeg;a=commit;h=6e8061980c9a18a0eb9802f5dc5becc349066680 http://git.ffmpeg.org/?p=ffmpeg;a=commit;h=8476744ba50d26a3e188def192cd9086b0f781d7 http://git.ffmpeg.org/?p=ffmpeg;a=commit;h=a51faef9b61bd80499a28322802ef4b22be44d43

Hi, Is there anything special I need to know about VP3's IDCT? I mean besides the fact that there are separate IDCTs to handle sparse coefficient matrices. Are the IDCT functions mathematically equivalent to any textbook IDCT functions? Thanks... -- -Mike Melanson --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To

Hi all, It's been a few years since I encoded a number of movies using the VP3 codec (v3.2) on my Quicksilver PPC. Now I have a new Intel mac and I'd like to play them. However, it seems that the codec offered on On2's website is only for the PPC architecture. Does anyone know a workaround or some other codec that works on the MacIntel platform? I'm using Quicktime Pro 7.