I just lost all my shorewall6 configs and half my shorewall configs because I forgot to add them to the NoUpgrade list before I upgraded. I''m nearly in tears trying to fix it, and as always IRC support is useless in finding a solution to prevent it from happening again.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what''s new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Christ Schlacta wrote:> I just lost all my shorewall6 configs and half my shorewall configs > because I forgot to add them to the NoUpgrade list before I upgraded. > > I''m nearly in tears trying to fix it, and as always IRC support is > useless in finding a solution to prevent it from happening again..What distribution are you using that will do such a horrible thing to its users? - -Tom - -- Tom Eastep \ When I die, I want to go like my Grandfather who Shoreline, \ died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like Washington, USA \ all of the passengers in his car http://shorewall.net \________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqZgBIACgkQO/MAbZfjDLJOMACfZN1j8VLOz4Od1PA6cVTdNL4W SAAAoLW6naESRTFZVa2t9HJnMik5UQ3h =KfNy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what''s new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
archlinux. and usually upgrading /etc by default is a good thing since most configs don''t get changed by users and are essential to be up to date.. some packages have a backup section in their packages that specify files that may be modified by the users. shorewall isn''t one of them. I had most of my configs in the NoUpgrade list, but had changed them since then, and forgot to add the new ones. Tom Eastep wrote:> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Christ Schlacta wrote: >> I just lost all my shorewall6 configs and half my shorewall configs >> because I forgot to add them to the NoUpgrade list before I upgraded. >> >> I''m nearly in tears trying to fix it, and as always IRC support is >> useless in finding a solution to prevent it from happening again.. > > What distribution are you using that will do such a horrible thing to > its users? > > - -Tom > - -- > Tom Eastep \ When I die, I want to go like my Grandfather who > Shoreline, \ died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like > Washington, USA \ all of the passengers in his car > http://shorewall.net \________________________________________________ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkqZgBIACgkQO/MAbZfjDLJOMACfZN1j8VLOz4Od1PA6cVTdNL4W > SAAAoLW6naESRTFZVa2t9HJnMik5UQ3h > =KfNy > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what''s new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Shorewall-users mailing list > Shorewall-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shorewall-users------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what''s new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
Christ Schlacta wrote:>I just lost all my shorewall6 configs and half my shorewall configs >because I forgot to add them to the NoUpgrade list before I upgraded. > >I''m nearly in tears trying to fix it, and as always IRC support is >useless in finding a solution to prevent it from happening again..I think this is one area where Debian differs from other distros - it doesn''t put much in /etc/shorewall[6] and won''t replace your shorewall.conf without asking. Upgrades are pretty safe. Of course this won''t help if you just extract a tarball in situ. Your other protection is called a backup regime. http://netzreport.googlepages.com/all_those_backups_waste_of_pay.html I''ve always found that selling a backup system is hard work - until a customer has lost something valuable/critical. -- Simon Hobson Visit http://www.magpiesnestpublishing.co.uk/ for books by acclaimed author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what''s new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Christ Schlacta wrote:> archlinux. and usually upgrading /etc by default is a good thing since > most configs don''t get changed by users and are essential to be up to > date..I think the notion of replacing a config file on an upgrade is completely broken unless the user has not modified the file from the prior install. That is the way that rpm works when you specify a file as a configuration file.> some packages have a backup section in their packages that > specify files that may be modified by the users. shorewall isn''t one of > them. I had most of my configs in the NoUpgrade list, but had changed > them since then, and forgot to add the new ones.Then I am glad that I used the tarball to install on Archlinux rather than pacman. The installer in the tarball declines to replace ANY configuration file. - -Tom - -- Tom Eastep \ When I die, I want to go like my Grandfather who Shoreline, \ died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like Washington, USA \ all of the passengers in his car http://shorewall.net \________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqZhK0ACgkQO/MAbZfjDLJf6wCgjld2x+zsly6h37xkziSkrrbJ SSMAn3DsZmX1q/SnIHl29G1Pm7Freals =RpCG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what''s new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
I''m familiar with backup procedures and systems, and have been pushing my wife (this is my home system) to let me buy or build one for quite some time, unfortunately it''s simply not in the budget, whereas any downtime up to about three days is. that''s how long it owuld take me to reestablish internet connectivity from the ground up if our router was physically stolen and had to be re-built from parts from the local outlet. Simon Hobson wrote:> Christ Schlacta wrote: >> I just lost all my shorewall6 configs and half my shorewall configs >> because I forgot to add them to the NoUpgrade list before I upgraded. >> >> I''m nearly in tears trying to fix it, and as always IRC support is >> useless in finding a solution to prevent it from happening again.. > > I think this is one area where Debian differs from other distros - it > doesn''t put much in /etc/shorewall[6] and won''t replace your > shorewall.conf without asking. Upgrades are pretty safe. > > Of course this won''t help if you just extract a tarball in situ. > > Your other protection is called a backup regime. > http://netzreport.googlepages.com/all_those_backups_waste_of_pay.html > > I''ve always found that selling a backup system is hard work - until a > customer has lost something valuable/critical. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what''s new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
________________________________________ From: Christ Schlacta [aarcane@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2009 5:48 AM To: Shorewall Users Subject: Re: [Shorewall-users] sad story:( I''m familiar with backup procedures and systems, and have been pushing my wife (this is my home system) to let me buy or build one for quite some time, unfortunately it''s simply not in the budget, whereas any downtime up to about three days is. that''s how long it owuld take me to reestablish internet connectivity from the ground up if our router was physically stolen and had to be re-built from parts from the local outlet. 1, Spend $10 on a 2GB USB Memory stick. 2, plug that into USB slot, re-partion and mkfs with ext3. 3, create a new mount point eg: /backup, and mount the new usb filesystem on that. 4, update /etc/fstab so that this is automounted 5, make some scripts to copy all your config onto that fs after every change. Total money cost..: $10 Total time cost..: about 10 minutes Total result...: Without Measure. Simon Hobson wrote:> Christ Schlacta wrote: >> I just lost all my shorewall6 configs and half my shorewall configs >> because I forgot to add them to the NoUpgrade list before I upgraded. >> >> I''m nearly in tears trying to fix it, and as always IRC support is >> useless in finding a solution to prevent it from happening again.. > > I think this is one area where Debian differs from other distros - it > doesn''t put much in /etc/shorewall[6] and won''t replace your > shorewall.conf without asking. Upgrades are pretty safe. > > Of course this won''t help if you just extract a tarball in situ. > > Your other protection is called a backup regime.NOTE: URL removed for security purposes - contact terry.gilsenan@interoil.com for support.> > I''ve always found that selling a backup system is hard work - until a > customer has lost something valuable/critical.Tom, I totally agree. Backup solutions can be so inexpensive.>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what''s new with NOTE: URL removed for security purposes - contact terry.gilsenan@interoil.com for support. _______________________________________________ Shorewall-users mailing list Shorewall-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shorewall-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what''s new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july