Martin Maurer of Proxmox has just pointed me to their new Firewall product based on Shorewall. See http://www.proxmox.com and http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/proxwall Proxmox firewall has an automated installer and a GUI and is based on Debian Sarge. Looks really cool! -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool Shoreline, \ http://shorewall.net Washington USA \ teastep@shorewall.net PGP Public Key \ https://lists.shorewall.net/teastep.pgp.key