Now I have a weird problem I have testing with two networks.
    This trouble has to do with the hosts file.
#ZONE  HOST(S)    OPTIONS
loctw              eth1:192.168.50.0/24
loctw           ppp+:!192.168.50.0/24
locsa          eth1:192.168.75.0/24
locsa           ppp+:!192.168.75.0/24
loc              eth1:192.168.25.0/24
#vpn3           ppp+:192.168.3.0/24
I can get through only one tunnel at a time.
If I remove the explanation mark tunnel loctw
I can then get tunnel locsa working and vs vrs if
I remove the explanation mark  from locsa and put
back explation mark in loctw I can then get tunnel
loctw working. And I have tryed both with and both without
both without explanation mark both without shorewall blocks
both tunnels both with one tunnel works :-(
    Thought I had the answer with zone order but still having trouble
TL=127 ID=20618 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=8 CODE=0 ID=512 SEQ=49920
Jun 26 15:38:47 66-224-62-110 kernel: Shorewall:FORWARD:REJECT:IN=eth1 
OUT=ppp0 SRC=192.168.50.2 DST=10.19.227.194 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 
TTL=127 ID=20619 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=8 CODE=0 ID=512 SEQ=50176
Jun 26 15:38:48 66-224-62-110 kernel: Shorewall:FORWARD:REJECT:IN=eth1 
OUT=ppp0 SRC=192.168.50.2 DST=10.19.227.194 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 
TTL=127 ID=20620 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=8 CODE=0 ID=512 SEQ=50432
interfaces
#ZONE INTERFACE BROADCAST OPTIONS
net eth0  detect  routefilter,norfc1918,tcpflags
- eth1  192.168.25.255,192.168.50.255,192.168.75.255
- ppp+
zones
#ZONE  DISPLAY   COMMENTS
net  Net  Internet
loctw  Chevrolet Local Networks
locsa  Saturn  Local Networks
loc  Local  Local Networks
#vpn3           Remote3         Remote Network 3
Mike