hello, my setup is rh8 2.4.20-8, shorewall 2.0.7, freeswan-2.04. ------- policy------- vpn loc accept loc vpn accept vpn fw accept fw vpn accept --------------------- --------zone ------- net net loc local dmz dmz vpn vpn ------------------------ ----- tunnels --------- ipsec net 0.0.0.0/0 vpn ipsecnat net 0.0.0.0/0 vpn -------------------------------------- ------ interfaces ------------ net eth0 loc eth1 dmz eth2 vpn ipsec0 --------------------------------- ------ masq -------------- eth0 eth1 ------------------------------- freeswan is installed on the same box as shorewall. looking at /var/log/secure "isakmp sa established" im able to establish a connectiong, when i ping the local network from from remote, i would get "negotiating ip security" then a ping reply, but right after the ping reply it will "timed out". i know this was working previously but all of a sudden it will not communicate anymore. looking at ipsec verify, i get a "kill tunnel" on 0.0.0.0/0. i think the problem started when i upgraded shorewall from v2.01 to current stable release. I have been duplicate same problem with rh9 2.4-20-31, the same exact problem. i dont know if it just my routing or not. pls help. thanks joshua