Tom has been a real encouragement to me over the years. I was just starting to learn linux. He even told me how pronounce etc directory. I was switching careers when I met him in a security news group before he had the list. My wife even recognizes him as a mentor. There always seems to be something new to learn with computers. The natural instinct is wanting to find the answer from someone who already knows the answer. Trouble is I recognize that he is busy and one usually learns more by finding trouble by yourself. I just want Tom to know he is very much appreciated here. I dont know of any other firewall that works so well developed by one person and more or less suppported by one. (No offense to all the others that help!) Tom is helping the world be more secure! Thanks Tom, Mike