This morning, I have subscribed all Shorewall Newbies members in Shorewall Users (if you were already subscribed to both lists, your subscription is unaffected). A password has been assigned for you -- you can have this new password mailed to you by going to: https://lists.shorewall.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-users and following the instructions at the bottom of the page. -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool Shoreline, \ http://shorewall.net Washington USA \ teastep@shorewall.net