Shorewall users - Mar 2003 - Diald

What Im trying to do it use the Diald Windows app called Dialmon. I did have
it connecting but with the limited documentation Vie found, Im not sure of
the particulars. 
The App DOES connect, and dials, but Shorewall rejects all traffic to the
TAP0 interface. 
So when ppp0 dials, it pauses and hangs up due to the password not being
sent (since it was rejected. My Network has the RH 7.3 server with Shorewall
and 3 win 98se clients. It Does work when I use PPPD it connects fine, but I
have no easy way of controlling the line. Since it is a dialup line, I need
to have this control. 
Now if PPPD does in fact have an easy way to control a modem line form a Win
client, I haven''t found anything on Google about it, but am open to
suggestions. 

Thanks for the response. 
Kev 

Message: 1
Date: 25 Mar 2003 12:52:26 -0800
From: Richard Doyle <rdoyle@islandnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [Shorewall-users] RE: Shorewall-users Digest, Vol 4,
	Issue 29
> 
> I have never used Shorewall with a dialed external interface and am 
> ignorant of what diald does with its tun/tap device. If you can send us 
> the information we need to diagnose connection problems (see 
> http://www.shorewall.net/support.htm), we will try to help you 
> nevertheless.
I use a dialed external interface with Shorewall, but can''t help the
poster with his problem. I did try to setup diald a few years ago, but
gave up--configuration was difficult, and the current version of ppp
provides many of the features of diald. 

Questions for the original poster:
Why do you need diald? That is, what features does diald offer that the
current version of ppp does not?
Have you gotten diald to work with a wide-open firewall? I hope you
don''t imagine Shorewall will fix a broken diald setup.
>  
> 
> -Tom
-- 
Richard Doyle <rdoyle@islandnetworks.com>

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You''ve probably noticed that most diald development ended about 2000,
right before the release of ppp 2.4. Diald provided many enhancements to
ppp 2.3, but most folks used it to implement dial-on-demand. I suspect
the implementation of dial-on-demand in ppp 2.4 removed the main
incentive for diald development.

I can''t help you with getting tap0 to work with shorewall, though I see
some Google hits on "tap0 shorewall"--
http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker-firewall/2002-12/msg00029.php,
at the top of the list, looked interesting.

There are windows clients for the LEAF bandwidth monitor
(http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/hejl/), which can be configured to
show traffic over ppp links. There must be similar traffic monitors for
your RedHat box.

I''ve found that dial-on-demand provides adequate, but automatic,
control
for my dial-up access to the Internet. Manual control from Windows
clients can be done through a Putty session with the Linux box, but no
GUI.

Sorry that I can''t provide much help. Good luck!

On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 06:19, Kevin Smith wrote:
> What Im trying to do it use the Diald Windows app called Dialmon. I did
have
> it connecting but with the limited documentation Vie found, Im not sure of
> the particulars. 
> The App DOES connect, and dials, but Shorewall rejects all traffic to the
> TAP0 interface. 
> So when ppp0 dials, it pauses and hangs up due to the password not being
> sent (since it was rejected. My Network has the RH 7.3 server with
Shorewall
> and 3 win 98se clients. It Does work when I use PPPD it connects fine, but
I
> have no easy way of controlling the line. Since it is a dialup line, I need
> to have this control. 
> Now if PPPD does in fact have an easy way to control a modem line form a
Win
> client, I haven''t found anything on Google about it, but am open
to
> suggestions. 
> 
> Thanks for the response. 
> Kev 
>

Message: 5
Date: 26 Mar 2003 11:10:22 -0800
From: Richard Doyle <rdoyle@islandnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [Shorewall-users] Diald
To: shorewall-users@lists.shorewall.net
Message-ID: <1048705822.1192.44.camel@plunker.islandnetworks.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
>You''ve probably noticed that most diald development ended about
2000,
>right before the release of ppp 2.4. Diald provided many enhancements to
>ppp 2.3, but most folks used it to implement dial-on-demand. I suspect
>the implementation of dial-on-demand in ppp 2.4 removed the main
>incentive for diald development.
=
Yea I have noticed, that why I thought there might have been a bit more info
than I found. 

=
>I can''t help you with getting tap0 to work with Shorewall, though I
see
>some Google hits on "tap0 Shorewall"--
>http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker-firewall/2002-12/msg00029.php,
>at the top of the list, looked interesting.
=Ill take a look ty..

=
>There are windows clients for the LEAF bandwidth monitor
>(http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/hejl/), which can be configured to
>show traffic over ppp links. There must be similar traffic monitors for
>your RedHat box.
>I''ve found that dial-on-demand provides adequate, but automatic,
control
>for my dial-up access to the Internet. Manual control from Windows
>clients can be done through a Putty session with the Linux box, but no
>GUI.
>Sorry that I can''t provide much help. Good luck!
---

That was what I was trying to avoid. Perhaps a scripts or, if I can figure
it out, put one together in VB to serve my purposes. 

Thanks for the response and info. 

Kev


On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 06:19, Kevin Smith wrote:
>> What Im trying to do it use the Diald Windows app called Dialmon. I did
have
>> it connecting but with the limited documentation Vie found, Im not sure
of
>> the particulars. 
>> The App DOES connect, and dials, but Shorewall rejects all traffic to
the
>>TAP0 interface. 
>>So when ppp0 dials, it pauses and hangs up due to the password not being
>>sent (since it was rejected. My Network has the RH 7.3 server with
Shorewall
>>and 3 win 98se clients. It Does work when I use PPPD it connects fine,
but
I
>>have no easy way of controlling the line. Since it is a dialup line, I
need
>>to have this control. 
>>Now if PPPD does in fact have an easy way to control a modem line form a
Win
>>client, I haven''t found anything on Google about it, but am
open to
>>suggestions. 
>>
>>Thanks for the response. 
>>Kev 
> 


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