Hey gang, I was wondering if all that documentation could or has been put into PDF format. I usually like to download documentation and read it while I''m sitting comfortably at home and I don''t want to tie up the phone line all night. Thanks, Nino p.s. If so, please feel free to attach the PDF formatted document to my e-mail ;-)
Tom Eastep wrote:> > > --On Monday, November 11, 2002 12:08:15 PM -0500 Nino > <nino@purdue.edu> wrote: > >> >> I was wondering if all that documentation could or has been put into >> PDF format. I usually like to download documentation and read it while >> I''m sitting comfortably at home and I don''t want to tie up the phone >> line >> all night. >> > > The documentation is not available in PDF format and probably won''t be > in its entirety. Making the whole documentation set into a single PDF > would be very wasteful of trees given that any given user is unlikely > to need all 4 Quick Start Guides. We are rather looking into making > individual PDFs available but we''re not there yet. > > -Tom > -- > Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy > AIM: tmeastep \ http://shorewall.sf.net > ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.netHello Tom, Thanks for the reply. The thing is that I wouldn''t use up any trees. It''s just nice to have the documentation in a PDF file so that I can get to it when I need it. I''d read it when I wanted and it would be on my PC. PDF isn''t necessarily used for printing and I know that you know that but it is a great format for keeping on your hard drive and referencing when you need it as opposed to webpages. A PDFed document is great for that. The problem arises when I need to reference the documentation when I''m not online in which case I have to save a bunch of different webpages and that is a lot more cumbersome than one document. The other issue is that it isn''t as complete which means that I''d print out what I wanted and that would be more wasteful than PDF formatted documents. Anyhow, let me know if this is something that you are serious about and maybe a few of us can get together to get it done. Thanks again, Nino> >
Tom Eastep wrote:> > > --On Monday, November 11, 2002 01:24:20 PM -0500 Nino > <nino@purdue.edu> wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply. The thing is that I wouldn''t use up any trees. >> It''s just nice to have the documentation in a PDF file so that I can get >> to it when I need it. I''d read it when I wanted and it would be on my >> PC. PDF isn''t necessarily used for printing and I know that you know >> that but it is a great format for keeping on your hard drive and >> referencing when you need it as opposed to webpages. A PDFed >> document is >> great for that. The problem arises when I need to reference the >> documentation when I''m not online in which case I have to save a >> bunch of >> different webpages and that is a lot more cumbersome than one document. >> The other issue is that it isn''t as complete which means that I''d print >> out what I wanted and that would be more wasteful than PDF formatted >> documents. Anyhow, let me know if this is something that you are >> serious >> about and maybe a few of us can get together to get it done. Thanks >> again, > > > In that case, I guess I don''t understand why you need PDFs -- the > entire web site is included in the .rpm and .tgz distributions. Can''t > you just point your browser at that copy of the documentation?I guess it is my fault as I''m running Mandrake 9 and looked in the /usr/share/docs/shorewall and didn''t see anything like your website there. I''ll download the rpm and go from there. Thanks, Nino> > -Tom > -- > Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy > AIM: tmeastep \ http://shorewall.sf.net > ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net >
--On Monday, November 11, 2002 12:08:15 PM -0500 Nino <nino@purdue.edu> wrote:> > I was wondering if all that documentation could or has been put into > PDF format. I usually like to download documentation and read it while > I''m sitting comfortably at home and I don''t want to tie up the phone line > all night. >The documentation is not available in PDF format and probably won''t be in its entirety. Making the whole documentation set into a single PDF would be very wasteful of trees given that any given user is unlikely to need all 4 Quick Start Guides. We are rather looking into making individual PDFs available but we''re not there yet. -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy AIM: tmeastep \ http://shorewall.sf.net ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net
--On Monday, November 11, 2002 01:24:20 PM -0500 Nino <nino@purdue.edu> wrote:> Thanks for the reply. The thing is that I wouldn''t use up any trees. > It''s just nice to have the documentation in a PDF file so that I can get > to it when I need it. I''d read it when I wanted and it would be on my > PC. PDF isn''t necessarily used for printing and I know that you know > that but it is a great format for keeping on your hard drive and > referencing when you need it as opposed to webpages. A PDFed document is > great for that. The problem arises when I need to reference the > documentation when I''m not online in which case I have to save a bunch of > different webpages and that is a lot more cumbersome than one document. > The other issue is that it isn''t as complete which means that I''d print > out what I wanted and that would be more wasteful than PDF formatted > documents. Anyhow, let me know if this is something that you are serious > about and maybe a few of us can get together to get it done. Thanks again,In that case, I guess I don''t understand why you need PDFs -- the entire web site is included in the .rpm and .tgz distributions. Can''t you just point your browser at that copy of the documentation? -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy AIM: tmeastep \ http://shorewall.sf.net ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:40:40PM -0800, Tom Eastep wrote:> > In that case, I guess I don''t understand why you need PDFs -- the entire > web site is included in the .rpm and .tgz distributions. Can''t you just > point your browser at that copy of the documentation? > > -Tom > --Hello Tom, I have only downloaded the 1.3.10 ''LATEST.tgz'' from a mirror I forget two or three days ago. The documentation directory only contains an /images subdir. No other docs. I used the web pages to refresh my ageing memory, but docs would have been nice. Just thought you should know. BTW I think ''shorewall'' is the best thing sinced sliced bread. Cheers -- russ linux.conf.au 2003 The Australian Linux Technical Conference http://linux.conf.au/ 22-25 January 2003 in Perth, Western Australia
--On Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:21:06 AM +0800 Russ Pitman >> I have only downloaded the 1.3.10 ''LATEST.tgz'' from a mirror I forget > two or three days ago. > > The documentation directory only contains an /images subdir. No other > docs. > > I used the web pages to refresh my ageing memory, but docs would have been > nice. > Just thought you should know. >This is on www.shorwall.net: [root@mail shorewall]# tar -ztf LATEST.tgz > LATEST.contents [root@mail shorewall]# cat LATEST.contents ... shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/ shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/ shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/BD21298_.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/BD21298_1.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/BD21298_2.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/BD21298_3.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/Hiking1.jpg shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/Mobile.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/ORE.jpg shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/SY00079.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/Shorewall_Banner.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/TwoNets1.jpg shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/TwoNets1.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/apache_pb1.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/basics.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/basics1.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/but3.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/compaq.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/dmz1.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/dmz2.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/dmz3.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/dmz4.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/dmz5.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/dmz6.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/dyndns_anim2.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/j0213519.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/leaflogo.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/leaflogo.jpg shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/linux_powered.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/logo-sm.jpg shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/menuconfig.jpg shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/menuconfig1.jpg shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/netopts.jpg shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/network.png 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shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/debian.jpg shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/netfilterlogo.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/TomNTarry.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/j0233056.gif shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/openlogo-nd-50.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/QoS.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/.xvpics/ shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/.xvpics/TomNTarry.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/images/Tigris.png shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/Documentation.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/Documentation_Index.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/FAQ.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/GnuCopyright.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/IPIP.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/IPSEC.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/Install.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/NAT.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/News.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/PPTP.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/ProxyARP.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/Shorewall_Banner.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/Shorewall_index_frame.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/blacklisting_support.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/configuration_file_basics.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/copyright.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/dhcp.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/download.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/errata.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/errata_1.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/errata_2.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/fallback.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/gnu_mailman.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/index.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/kernel.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/mailing_list.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/mailing_list_problems.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/myfiles.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/useful_links.html shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/ports.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/quotes.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/samba.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/seattlefirewall_index.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/shoreline.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/shorewall_extension_scripts.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/shorewall_features.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/shorewall_firewall_structure.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/shorewall_index.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/shorewall_mailing_list_migration.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/shorewall_mirrors.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/shorewall_prerequisites.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/shorewall_quickstart_guide.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/shorewall_setup_guide.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/spam_filters.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/standalone.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/starting_and_stopping_shorewall.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/subnet_masks.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/support.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/three-interface.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/traffic_shaping.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/troubleshoot.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/two-interface.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/whitelisting_under_shorewall.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/VPN.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/upgrade_issues.htm shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/Shorewall_CVS_Access.html shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/MAC_Validation.html [root@mail shorewall] You can download the LATEST.contents file to verify... I furthermore downloaded the .tgz from all of the mirrors and verified using ''tar ztf LATEST.tgz'' that the archive''s contents were the same as shown above. I also untarred a couple of the archives as follows: [teastep@wookie teastep]$ tar -zxf LATEST.tgz [teastep@wookie teastep]$ cd shorewall-1.3.10/documentation/ [teastep@wookie documentation]$ ls -l total 952 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 157893 Oct 28 09:53 Documentation.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 863 Aug 20 08:52 Documentation_Index.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 39883 Nov 9 08:17 FAQ.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 19104 Aug 20 08:52 GnuCopyright.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 7091 Aug 22 15:22 IPIP.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 13117 Oct 23 17:07 IPSEC.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 9940 Oct 28 09:54 Install.htm -rw-rw-r-- 1 teastep teastep 5472 Oct 28 10:36 MAC_Validation.html -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 4169 Aug 20 08:52 NAT.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 78734 Nov 9 08:45 News.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 25672 Oct 23 13:57 PPTP.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 4523 Aug 17 16:58 ProxyARP.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 1076 Apr 30 2002 Shorewall_Banner.htm -rw-rw-r-- 1 teastep teastep 1868 Sep 23 15:09 Shorewall_CVS_Access.html -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 5821 Nov 9 08:29 Shorewall_index_frame.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 3484 Aug 27 08:52 VPN.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 3559 Oct 7 08:13 blacklisting_support.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 14207 Oct 24 16:04 configuration_file_basics.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 1235 Aug 20 08:52 copyright.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 2821 Nov 3 07:10 dhcp.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 12496 Nov 9 08:47 download.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 26108 Oct 9 07:48 errata.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 8924 Aug 20 08:52 errata_1.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 18293 Aug 20 08:52 errata_2.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 2749 Aug 20 08:52 fallback.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 2691 Sep 14 12:30 gnu_mailman.htm drwxrwxr-x 3 teastep teastep 4096 Nov 9 10:13 images -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 590 Aug 20 08:52 index.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 5067 Aug 20 08:52 kernel.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 7438 Sep 27 09:18 mailing_list.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 3655 Nov 3 08:04 mailing_list_problems.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 12538 Oct 23 16:02 myfiles.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 5183 Oct 22 17:19 ports.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 4762 Oct 9 07:53 quotes.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 2418 Aug 20 08:52 samba.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 22659 Nov 9 09:00 seattlefirewall_index.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 5271 Oct 28 18:07 shoreline.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 7057 Aug 22 11:30 shorewall_extension_scripts.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 4240 Nov 9 08:30 shorewall_features.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 10223 Aug 22 16:12 shorewall_firewall_structure.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 760 Aug 20 08:52 shorewall_index.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 1864 Aug 20 08:52 shorewall_mailing_list_migration.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 2979 Aug 26 14:52 shorewall_mirrors.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 2769 Sep 19 19:13 shorewall_prerequisites.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 9598 Nov 3 07:14 shorewall_quickstart_guide.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 90269 Sep 19 08:55 shorewall_setup_guide.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 1781 Aug 20 08:52 spam_filters.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 14765 Sep 28 08:46 standalone.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 12743 Oct 23 12:56 starting_and_stopping_shorewall.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 3653 Aug 20 08:52 subnet_masks.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 6332 Oct 13 06:58 support.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 42204 Oct 22 10:44 three-interface.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 9178 Oct 25 09:15 traffic_shaping.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 9085 Oct 17 20:35 troubleshoot.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 35431 Oct 9 07:17 two-interface.htm -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 8068 Nov 9 09:00 upgrade_issues.htm -rw-rw-r-- 1 teastep teastep 2196 Sep 19 11:15 useful_links.html -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep teastep 9424 Aug 20 08:52 whitelisting_under_shorewall.htm [teastep@wookie documentation]$ Don''t know what to tell you... -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy AIM: tmeastep \ http://shorewall.sf.net ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net
--On Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:21:06 AM +0800 Russ Pitman <rjp@belle.apana.org.au> wrote:> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:40:40PM -0800, Tom Eastep wrote: >> >> In that case, I guess I don''t understand why you need PDFs -- the entire >> web site is included in the .rpm and .tgz distributions. Can''t you just >> point your browser at that copy of the documentation? >> >> -Tom >> -- > Hello Tom, > > I have only downloaded the 1.3.10 ''LATEST.tgz'' from a mirror I forget > two or three days ago. > > The documentation directory only contains an /images subdir. No other > docs. > > I used the web pages to refresh my ageing memory, but docs would have been > nice. > Just thought you should know.Also, check the size of the archive that you downloaded -- the documentation files are at the end of the archive and your download may have terminated before the entire archive was downloaded.> > BTW I think ''shorewall'' is the best thing sinced sliced bread. >Thanks! -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy AIM: tmeastep \ http://shorewall.sf.net ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:50:03PM -0800, Tom Eastep wrote:> > > --On Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:21:06 AM +0800 Russ Pitman > <rjp@belle.apana.org.au> wrote: > > >On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:40:40PM -0800, Tom Eastep wrote: > >> > >>In that case, I guess I don''t understand why you need PDFs -- the entire > >>web site is included in the .rpm and .tgz distributions. Can''t you just > >>point your browser at that copy of the documentation? > >> > >>-Tom > >>-- > >Hello Tom, > > > >I have only downloaded the 1.3.10 ''LATEST.tgz'' from a mirror I forget > >two or three days ago. > > > >The documentation directory only contains an /images subdir. No other > >docs. > > > >I used the web pages to refresh my ageing memory, but docs would have been > >nice. > >Just thought you should know. > > Also, check the size of the archive that you downloaded -- the > documentation files are at the end of the archive and your download may > have terminated before the entire archive was downloaded.True!! The size was way under. Just pulled down another copy and it''s kosher. I use mc a lot and what I -must- have done was look in the download and copied out the directory. Everything worked and built perfectly.> >BTW I think ''shorewall'' is the best thing sinced sliced bread. > >Yes Indeedy!> > Thanks! > > -Tom > --I think I should go to bed early tonight, my head hurts :-)) Cheers -- russ linux.conf.au 2003 The Australian Linux Technical Conference http://linux.conf.au/ 22-25 January 2003 in Perth, Western Australia
Also, I meant to apologise for wasting your time. Sorry, -- russ linux.conf.au 2003 The Australian Linux Technical Conference http://linux.conf.au/ 22-25 January 2003 in Perth, Western Australia
--On Wednesday, November 13, 2002 06:07:38 AM +0800 Russ Pitman <rjp@belle.apana.org.au> wrote:> Also, I meant to apologise for wasting your time. >No problem -- I should have thought of the possibility of a truncated file before I wasted my own time :-) -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy AIM: tmeastep \ http://shorewall.sf.net ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net
Juraj Ontkanin has produced a .pdf of the 1.3.10 Shorewall documentation which can be downloaded from: ftp://slovakia.shorewall.net/mirror/shorewall/pdf/ http://slovakia.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/pdf/ -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy AIM: tmeastep \ http://shorewall.sf.net ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net