Ok -- I''ve calmed down to a slow boil now after discovering that once again, one or more of the sample configurations are broken and 100''s of newbies have downloaded them. Rather than removing all links to the Quickstart Guide, I''ve placed the following disclaimer on the top of the guide: NOTICE: This QuickStart Guide is currently unmaintained and I make no claims regarding its correctness or the correctness of the accompanying samples. If you are interested in helping to maintain the guide and samples, please contact me. As such time as the samples and quickstart guide are actively maintained, that disclaimer can be removed. -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy AIM: tmeastep \ http://www.shorewall.net ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net