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Well now that I got your attention.... Why RoR sucks: 1. It''s smarter than me. Just when I think I''ll have to do some mundane thing (like I use to in PHP or ASP), I find out RoR does it already for me. 2. It takes about half or less code to put my stuff together in RoR than it did in PHP, ASP, ASP.NET, etc. It seems so unnatural that I can have a method with only 4 lines