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...tests before exploding. If I could find a comprehensive Erlang testing suite, I'd blog those results as well. I have been using LLVMed Erlang for two months now, however, with no ill effects noted and a "feel" that it is snappier. Good work. LLVM rocks. -- Michael T. Richter <ttmrichter at gmail.com> (GoogleTalk: ttmrichter at gmail.com) We should sell bloat credits, the way the government sells pollution credits. Everybody's assigned a certain amount of bloat, and if they go over, they have to purchase bloat credits from some other group that's been more careful. (Bent...

...I have two dependencies whose documentation each points firmly at the other as the first step to build. I've tried it both ways and been burned by error messages about missing or dysfunctional pieces. What's the next step? How do I actually do a bootstrap? -- Michael T. Richter Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: mtr1966 at jabber.cn "I find many of the machines of violence very attractive. Tanks, airplanes, warships, especially aircraft car...

...any, many, many "little stacks". Is it possible to have lots of tiny stacks in LLVM's architecture, to switch between them easily, to check when they overflow and to automatically grow them when they exceed their bounds? -- Michael T. Richter Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: mtr1966 at jabber.cn "To [the Chinese], all other people are barbarians." --The Dalai Lama -------------- next part ---------...

...; 2. Build llvm-gcc3 3. Build llvm with "make" For llvm-gcc4, the basic flow is: 1. Build llvm 2. Build llvm-gcc This should be covered in the GettingStarted.html document: http://llvm.org/docs/GettingStarted.html Reid. > > -- > Michael T. Richter > Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com > MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: > michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: > mtr1966 at jabber.cn > > "I find many of the machines of violence very attractive. Tanks, > airplanes, war...

Thanks for your replies. This is indeed a helpful mailing list. I made some more researches about the licensing issue and this is what I discovered: - from FSF it seems that packaging together a GPL application and a commercial one it is a corner case of licensing. Here is what they say: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggregation

...ays you need a functioning llvm. Man! I'm only just figuring out how large my self-assigned project of making a GHC that uses LLVM as a back-end really is! ;) For my next number I will prove that P=NP and destroy the whole field of public key cryptography! :D -- Michael T. Richter Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: mtr1966 at jabber.cn "I would not flinch from sacrificing a million lives for India's liberty!" --Mahatma Gandhi --------...

...;) Compilers are generally "big". Once you get past this build stuff, the rest will seem easy. :) > For my next number I will prove that P=NP and destroy the whole field > of public key cryptography! :D Go for it! :) Reid. > > -- > Michael T. Richter > Email: ttmrichter at gmail.com, mtr1966 at hotpop.com > MSN: ttmrichter at hotmail.com, mtr1966 at hotmail.com; YIM: > michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: > mtr1966 at jabber.cn > > "I would not flinch from sacrificing a million lives for India's > liberty!&q...

...there are thousands) and then that message. It will take me a while to figure out where the error is happening. (Binary search for the win!) Once I have it narrowed down to one specific test, I will update the bug report with the steps required to replicate the error. -- Michael T. Richter <ttmrichter at gmail.com> (GoogleTalk: ttmrichter at gmail.com) Experts in advanced countries underestimate by a factor of two to four the ability of people in underdeveloped countries to do anything technical. (Charles P Issawi) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL...

...ore, I don't see anything in the configure script that allows me to turn off Objective-C, despite the fact I'll never actually use that language. How can I either turn off Objective-C (and bypass the error) or get it to stop trying to compile MacOS-specific code? -- Michael T. Richter <ttmrichter at gmail.com> (GoogleTalk: ttmrichter at gmail.com) I can see computers everywhere - except in the productivity statistics! (Robert Solow) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20070921/778efa14/at...

Hi Michael, thanks for trying out LLVM! "The bad news comes with the make test-all results. Less than two minutes into the comprehensive test suite the LLVM-GCC version of Ruby 1.9 dies with the following message: "Illegal instruction (core dumped)". Later it tells me the test failed with "error 132". This is, as you can see, not a very useful message since it's not

I wrote: > The Solution: Make LLVM usable as a DLL or SLL in Windoze, > capable of generating a finished ready-to-execute .EXE or > .DLL file, without requiring that MinGW or Cygwin be > installed first. Michael T. Richter replied: > You will be welcomed with open arms by the LLVM community > when you write this. I look forward to your announcement > with bated breath.

On May 13, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Razvan Aciu wrote: > Thanks for your replies. This is indeed a helpful mailing list. I > made some > more researches about the licensing issue and this is what I > discovered: > For now, I think for a commercial developer who wants to create a > complete > compiler toolchain using llvm, trying to package its compiler with > GCC is a

"Razvan Aciu" <admin at kam.ro> writes: [snip] > The problem is with the gcc and binutils licence. This is GPL and [snip] I agree with Owen Anderson on this one (altough IANAL, etc). [snip] > In that respect, if someone can adapt the MASM templates to produce > NASM directives (it is the only thing that needs to be changed), these > updates will be more than

...y > available/installed on customer's computers running Windoze. > See my other thread. And see where the other people in the other thread tell you to just redistribute the assembler and linker as part of your god-damned project! Are you really this thick? -- Michael T. Richter <ttmrichter at gmail.com> (GoogleTalk: ttmrichter at gmail.com) Never, ever, ever let systems-level engineers do human interaction design unless they have displayed a proven secondary talent in that area. Their opinion of what represents good human-computer interaction tends to be a bit off-track. (Bruce To...

Hi there LLVM is a great idea, congratulations. Do you mind if I give you a little bit of constructive criticism from the point of view of a developer who would like to use LLVM as a back-end? I will write this email from the point of view of MS Windows, but the same applies to MacOS and Linux. LLVM is difficult/awkward to use in a real-world environment/situation. To solve this problem,

me22.ca wrote: > You said that if I have to install GCC, you might as well > just use it for everything. That statement very clearly > doesn't apply anymore, since it's binutils that's the > dependency. Or if you still stand by it, it means that > you consider GCC to also be "incomplete". How do I get the necessary binutils on Windoze? Install MinGW or

Michael T. Richter wrote: > Apparently the APIs in the LLVM docs missed your > attention. They're sneaky that way because, you know, > they just form the bulk of available documentation. I began my original message saying that I was providing "constructive criticism". That means I want to HELP if I can. Your sarcastic attitude is unprofessional. > The

Jon Harrop wrote: > Can you explain why you would like to generate DLLs on the > customer's computer rather than using LLVM as a JIT > compiler? Customers/clients unhappy with the inefficiency, extra CPU and RAM usage, and performance penalty of JIT. They require a faster, more efficient solution. The solution is to fully compile programs to native code at the time of

Does anybody have a working version of LLVM 2.1+ (ideally in a .deb file) that they're willing to share? I'm having some weird problems trying to get a working version on my 7.10 machine.

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