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...) will crash as often as each other. I realise this is probably an implementation dependent problem but what is the best way of debugging R, to see what is happening under the hood? Thanks Mark Lumsden -- View this message in context: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/R-2-12-1-on-OpenBSD-Tk-problem-tp3204876p3204876.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.