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As someone who fwded initial story to both SAS and R lists, I find the messages on this forum and on SAS-L forum (which are publicly available) a contrast ( One list is partying like they won the World Series -the other one talks of either self denial.....or of self appraisal and anguish) http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S2=sas-l&q=&s=New+York+Times+&f=&a=Dec+2008&b=

I poked around the web a little and didn''t run across how to use https when it asks for certificate validation. I''m trying to connect to devices that don''t have valid certificates, and in this case, I don''t care if they are or not. So when I use my browser to ge to the site, firefox asks me to allow the certificate, then one other question, then I get the