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2015 Apr 24
2
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 08:32:45AM -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> Wasn't Solaris, which for awhile at least, was probably the most popular
> Unix, using ksh by default?
Solaris /bin/sh was a real real dumb version of the bourne shell.
Solaris included /bin/ksh as part of the core distribution (ksh88 was a
part of the SVr4 specification) and so many scripts were written with
#!/bin/ksh at
2015 Apr 27
2
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...h, or ksh, and didn't realize about
> bash. I *think* I vaguely remember that sh seemed to be more capable than
> I remembered.
If you like to check what the Bourne Shell did support in the late 1980s, I
recommend you to fetch recent Schily tools from:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/
compile and install and test "osh".
This is the SVr4 Bourne Shell, so you need to take into account what has been
added with Svr4:
- multibyte character support. In the 1980s, the Bourne Shell was just
8-bit clean.
- job-control. If you do not call "jsh", or if you...
2015 Apr 24
2
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...d provided sh, mv, tar, ifconfig and mount as statib binaries in "/sbin".
Since Solaris 10 we know better and there is no static binary anymore.
BTW: the real Bourne Shell is now 100% portable and enhanced since a longer
time. If you like to test the real Bourne Shell, check the latest schilytools:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/
The Bourne Shell is also much faster than bash. In special on platforms like
Cygwin, where Microsoft enforces extremly slow process creation.
> Even though Solaris started using ksh as the default user environment,
> almost all of th...
2015 Apr 24
4
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:38:25AM -0400, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
> Fascinating. As I'd been in Sun OS, and started doing admin work when it
> became Solaris, I'd missed that bit. A question: did the license agreement
> include payment, or was it just restrictive on distribution?
In 1990, when I started using ksh88, it was totally commercial. Binaries
were $$$ and source was
2015 Apr 24
3
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
It was the mid/late-90s, but I seem to recall Bourne being the default
shell, although sh/ksh/csh were all available with a typical install.
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 08:02:56AM -0400, mark wrote:
> > On 04/24/15 06:57, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
> > >
> > >On 04/24/15 06:07, E.B. wrote:
2015 Apr 28
1
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...this - until you
fully understand both licenses.
J?rg
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EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
2015 Apr 27
2
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...f you ignore this explanation, I
cannot help you.
J?rg
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EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
2015 Apr 27
2
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...BSD code in the Linux kernel?
You are kidding :-(
J?rg
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EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
2015 Apr 27
4
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...h GPL code, you can do
with GPL and CDDL as well.
J?rg
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EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
2015 Apr 27
4
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...y
portability attempts seem to be widely unknown.
J?rg
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EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
2015 Apr 27
2
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...dHat follow the legal audits from these companies?
J?rg
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EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
2015 Apr 27
2
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...sing is not helpful and it even has disadvantages.
J?rg
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EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
2015 May 29
7
Native ZFS on Linux
I have a question that has been puzzling me for some time ... what is
the reason RedHat chose to go with btrfs rather than working with the
ZFS-on-Linux folks (now OpenZFS)? Is it a licensing issue, political, etc?
Although btrfs is making progress, ZFS is far more mature, has a few
more stable features (especially Raid-z3) and has worked flawlessly for
me on CentOS-6 and Scientific Linux-6.
2015 Apr 24
9
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
On 04/24/2015 03:57 AM, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
> if you leave it out the script will run in whatever environment it
> currently is in.
I'm reasonably certain that a script with no shebang will run with
/bin/sh. I interpret your statement to mean that if a user is using ksh
and enters the path to such a script, it would also run in ksh. That
would only be true if you
2015 Apr 24
4
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 03:15:27PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Stephen Harris <lists at spuddy.org> wrote:
>
> > Bash was bigger than ksh in the non-commercial Unix world because of ksh88
> > licensing problems. Back in 1998 I wanted to teach a ksh scripting
> > course to my local LUG, but AT&T (David Korn himsef!) told me I couldn't
> > give
2015 Apr 27
2
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...course _don't_ mix CDDLd code with GPLd code.
J?rg
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EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
2015 Apr 24
0
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...Since
2001, ksh is under a OSI approved license.
J?rg
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EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'
2015 Apr 24
2
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 3:04 PM, <m.roth at 5-cent.us> wrote:
> >
> My first RH was 5, late nineties. First time I looked at linux and
> installed, it was '95, and slack. (We'll ignore the Coherent that I
> installed on my beloved 286 in the late 80's).
> <snip>
You mean you missed all the fun with Xenix on Radio Shack Model 16's
and SysV on
2015 Apr 27
2
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Warren Young <wyml at etr-usa.com> wrote:
> >
>>> 4. CDDL annoys a lot of people.
>>
>> The CDDL does not annoy people, this is just a fairy tale from some OSS enemies.
>
> The following irritates me, I am a ?people,? and I am not an OSS enemy:
>
> http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhatAboutTheLicensingIssue
It is
2015 Apr 27
0
Real sh? Or other efficient shell for non-interactive scripts
...DLd separate and independend work ZFS of
course.
J?rg
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EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'