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This came out of the OggPCM discussion, but I think it needs to be addressed on a wider scale. Let's start here, 5 years ago.. http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/vorbis-dev/2000-July/009513.html (I included this email, below) I emailed David (author of that email) and asked him to join this list. I'm thinking, as I look at the problem, that surround sound needs to be defined _outside_

Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:51:12 +0100 (BST) From: DG Malham <dgm2@york.ac.uk> To: vorbis-dev@xiph.org Cc: DG Malham <dgm2@york.ac.uk>, Rob Fletcher <rpf1@york.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [vorbis-dev] True surround sound for Ogg -- a proposal (fwd) In-Reply-To: <Pine.SGI.3.95L.1000710092216.9043693B-100000@turpin.york.ac.uk> Message-ID:

> I that this is handled pretty nicely by the "simple map" that Sampo > suggested. This is basically the same thing as the "channel map" > described on the wiki, but with the (physical,logical) channel pair > swapped. So, using the syntax from the wiki: > channel_type = OGG_CHANNEL_MAP_STEREO > channel_map [OGG_CHANNEL_FRONT_LEFT] = 1 > channel_map

Hi everyone, Over the last two weeks or so, I've been thinking about how to add surround sound to Ogg -- and more than that, to do it in the best way possible. With this in mind, I started considering using Ambisonic surround sound. The advantages of this format are considerable: a) It was developed in the early to mid '70s, so the patents should be expired by now.

On 2005-11-19, Jean-Marc Valin wrote: > Not sure this is a good idea. Remember that channel_map is just an > array (unless you want to make it a map?). So if you had a > OGG_CHANNEL_SPECIAL with an id of 1000, it would force 1000 entries in > the array. True, but remember that the channel map type implied the number of entries in the table, and also that in this organization

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On Oct 4, 2009, at 16:48, James Cloos wrote: > I always thought that the best way to put ambisonic media in flac > was to > use an ogg container, with the 0-order w channel in one flac > stream, the > three first-order channels in a second flac stream, the five second- > order > channels in a third flac stream and the seven third-order channels > in a > forth flac

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> True, but remember that the channel map type implied the number of > entries in the table, and also that in this organization you'll always > number the logical channels consequtively since each logical channel > indeed corresponds to an index into the array. If the channel map type > says it's a map for 5.1, there will only be 6 slots in the table no > matter how

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