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...319 bytes with windows media voice at full quality). the downside to this is that high frequencies are lost, which i think is what is causing the problem in the first place. the voice in the sound clip is not very crisp anymore. would it be possible for speex to recognize parts with ess sounds or particulily [important] high frequencies and decode these at a high bitrate, while keeping the rest [and most] of the stream in lower quality? in other words, make the vbr code more observant? olav <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org...