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...dir<-c(2,4,6,8,10)/10 plot(spdiff,dpdet,pch=15,ylim=c(0,max(dpdet,dpsp,dpdir)),xlab="Speed difference$ points(spdiff,dpdir,pch=16) points(spdiff,dpsp,pch=17) Bugs: 1. The y-axis numbering labels are shifted down and are not centred on the hash-marks. BTW, weren't the labels in normal (nonrotated) orientation before this version? I didn't have to use las before 2. This is an old bug: only the first plotted sysmbol has the correct size. (Squares in this example). The others are not scaled up as cex should make them. These comments are based on inspection of the .ps form of the plot...