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...these are markets in which you don't get paid...!) In many ways Grub is like Windows; bloated, bad design, has the checkbox features, most of them badly implemented, and enough pretty pictures people think it's user friendly. I don't want to turn syslinux into that. So I guess the megaquestion is... Is it worth bothering with going forward, or am I wasting my time? If so, what should I be focusing on? -hpa