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...just skimming the surface. The real hard bits come from the way systemd hooks into the whole FreeDesktop infrastructure and vice versa. (e.g. dbus is now inextricably part of systemd, and many FreeDesktop interactions happen via dbus.) This is why the BSDs are either dropping GNOME and KDE (e.g. Lumina in TrueOS) or have badly lagging ports compared to the upstream version. I suspect it?s probably easier to start with C6, then backport as much as is possible without dragging in any systemd stuff, the same way the BSDs are doing. Good luck to y?all. Sincerely. I plan to keep on using C7, warts...

...d bits come from the way systemd hooks into the whole >> FreeDesktop infrastructure and vice versa. (e.g. dbus is now >> inextricably part of systemd, and many FreeDesktop interactions happen >> via dbus.) This is why the BSDs are either dropping GNOME and KDE >> (e.g. Lumina in TrueOS) or have badly lagging ports compared to the >> upstream version. >> >> I suspect it?s probably easier to start with C6, then backport as much >> as is possible without dragging in any systemd stuff, the same way the >> BSDs are doing. >> >> Go...

...ming the surface. > > The real hard bits come from the way systemd hooks into the whole FreeDesktop infrastructure and vice versa. (e.g. dbus is now inextricably part of systemd, and many FreeDesktop interactions happen via dbus.) This is why the BSDs are either dropping GNOME and KDE (e.g. Lumina in TrueOS) or have badly lagging ports compared to the upstream version. > > I suspect it?s probably easier to start with C6, then backport as much as is possible without dragging in any systemd stuff, the same way the BSDs are doing. > > Good luck to y?all. Sincerely. I plan to keep...

...the way systemd hooks into the whole >>> FreeDesktop infrastructure and vice versa. (e.g. dbus is now >>> inextricably part of systemd, and many FreeDesktop interactions >>> happen via dbus.) This is why the BSDs are either dropping GNOME >>> and KDE (e.g. Lumina in TrueOS) or have badly lagging ports compared >>> to the upstream version. >>> >>> I suspect it?s probably easier to start with C6, then backport as >>> much as is possible without dragging in any systemd stuff, the same >>> way the BSDs are doing....

On Wed, 2017-06-07 at 11:23 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > If you want to create a CentOS-7 variant that does not use systemd, > then start a Special Interest Group and create modified packages > to use something else instead ......., much like the this group did > with Debian: > > https://devuan.org/ > > In the case of CentOS-7 .. you don't need to create a whole new