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...vide feedback as a paying customer. Said vendor may or may not heed those suggestions, but that is the only effective way to change the CentOS utility/package list. Honestly, we could all -- every single last one of us -- agree that $PACKAGE belongs in the core CentOS distribution, but until $LARGE_VENDOR agrees, we're just shouting in a vacuum. -- Paul Heinlein <> heinlein at madboa.com <> http://www.madboa.com/