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Hi I've upgraded to 2.1.7 and finally decided to turn off imaps and pop3s because these days everyone uses tls over 143 anyway. But it's on and I can't figure out why. I only have non-ssl versions specified: protocols = imap pop3 I've stopped and started and the ports are still open and netstat says dovecot is listening on them.. mail:~# netstat -tulnp | grep dove tcp 0