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On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Warren Young <wyml at etr-usa.com> wrote: > > Docker will eat away at this problem going forward. You naturally will not already have Dockerized versions of apps built 10 years ago, and it may not be practical to create them now, but you can start insisting on getting them today so that your future OS changes don?t break things for you again. > Yes,

...e CPU-hours of JVM use on *ix than JS in browsers, that sort of elitist argument has been repeatedly defeated. Big Iron vs minicomputers, Unix workstations vs the PC, ?real? Unix vs Linux, the PC vs the smartphone? Time and time again, the forces driving the end-user market end up taking over the hrumph hrumph serious computing market. This has already happened with JS vs Java in the ?3 billion? space Oracle wants to claim, and I see no reason why it can?t eventually steamroll the *ix world, too, via node.js. Even if you wave a magic wand and get the JVM onto every *ix box ? which is currently v...

...the PC vs the smartphone? No, I'm saying it pretty much owns the phone/tablet space and the examples of elasticsearch (and other lucene-based stuff), jenkins, etc. show it scales to the other end as well. > Time and time again, the forces driving the end-user market end up taking over the hrumph hrumph serious computing market. This has already happened with JS vs Java in the ?3 billion? space Oracle wants to claim, and I see no reason why it can?t eventually steamroll the *ix world, too, via node.js. node.js seems like the worst of all worlds - a language designed _not_ to speak to the...