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...so that this will not help.) For the record the ipchains commands looked something like this: ipchains -I chain -s 192.168.199.199/32 -d ! 192.168.199.0/24 -j DENY -l Thanks Ian -- Ian Forbes ZSD http://www.zsd.co.za Office: +27 21 683-1388  Fax: +27 21 674-1106 Snail Mail: P.O. Box 46827, Glosderry, 7702, South Africa