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...ar utmp and wtmp. As these logs mean didily-squat without unique terminal names (and don't work anyway), I was wondering what would happen if all sesions were forced to use a pty? I presume the 'forced' tty would need to be modified to ignore escape characters, but are there any other fundemenal problmes with the idea? Thanks, Andrew Bartlett -- Andrew Bartlett abartlet at pcug.org.au