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I didn''t get a chance to go to this meeting debating WebObjects Vs Rails, but here''s a report about it: http://desperatepundit.com/blog/cremes/technology/2006/02/15/WebObjects-versus-Ruby-On-Rails.html I don''t get what he''s saying, hand coding the model? yeah, you COULD ... but what about script/generate ??? And is that so what he said about security? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.