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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ That's still several years in the future, of course. I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm sure many of you fine folks do the same. But it's interesting nonetheless. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com

...gt; > I one of the few (?) people who use "none of the above" (meaning all of the > "modern" desktop managers). I use fvwm in MWM mode and have a Tcl/Tk coded > "menu manager" program. My screen looks almost like a 1980s vintage > VaxStation 3000 running DECWindows. Right now on C6 and using as little of > Gnome2 as it will let me (one panel). File Manage set to /bin/true. No > "start" menu nonsense, no desktop icons either, just a fvwm iconbox for > running programs and a 10 element Workspace switcher. And yes, I use actual > xterms...

...ox. First of all I don't like Gnome or really any of the mess-windows flavored desktop systems and no, I don't like the MacOSX flavored desktop systems (like Ubuntu's Unity) either. The 'desktop' system (if you could have called it that) that I learned on was DEC's 'DecWindows' system on a VAXStation 2000 (under VMS). This was basically a rebranded Motif system with MWM and used DEC's *simple* session manager. I presently use FVWM in MWM compatibilty mode and a home written session manager written in Tcl/Tk. I use FVWM's icon box module to manage the...

...resting nonetheless. I one of the few (?) people who use "none of the above" (meaning all of the "modern" desktop managers). I use fvwm in MWM mode and have a Tcl/Tk coded "menu manager" program. My screen looks almost like a 1980s vintage VaxStation 3000 running DECWindows. Right now on C6 and using as little of Gnome2 as it will let me (one panel). File Manage set to /bin/true. No "start" menu nonsense, no desktop icons either, just a fvwm iconbox for running programs and a 10 element Workspace switcher. And yes, I use actual xterms. -- Robert...

...of the few (?) people who use "none of the above" (meaning all of the > > "modern" desktop managers). I use fvwm in MWM mode and have a Tcl/Tk coded > > "menu manager" program. My screen looks almost like a 1980s vintage > > VaxStation 3000 running DECWindows. Right now on C6 and using as little of > > Gnome2 as it will let me (one panel). File Manage set to /bin/true. No > > "start" menu nonsense, no desktop icons either, just a fvwm iconbox for > > running programs and a 10 element Workspace switcher. And yes, I use act...