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Hi, I am tackling with FXList ( ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i386-mswin32]) ) . The ''data'' value is a MDIChild reference afxlist.findItemByData(sender) => return -1 . Always I can turn around it by doing .......... cpt = 0 ; idx=nil afxlist.each do |lista| if lista.data == sender idx=cpt break