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seems the behavior of rsync has changed when dealing with output and using both -v and -q at the same time ... for example: $ mkdir test1 $ touch test1/foo $ rsync-2.6.0 -avq test1 test2 $ rm -r test2 $ rsync-2.6.8 -avq test1 test2 test1/ test1/fo $ rm -r test2 $ rsync-cvs -avq test1 test2 building file list ... test1/ test1/fo $ rm -r test2 the new output in 2.6.8 comes from the calls to