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So, I abandoned the hope of using the ogg python bindings to do pure ogg container encoding. I started looking at the libogg in the hopes of retooling the bindings to follow a better object model and it actually looks like the problem is down in libogg, not the bindings. Am I crazy or does libogg rely on libvorbis to return ogg_packets, and that there are no functions that will build an ogg_packet