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.... So now I am carefully checking out clamav before I make any config changes and right away I notice discrepencies with where clamd.pid is located. In /etc/clamd.conf it is placed in /var/run/clamav/clamd.pid In /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf it is placed in /var/run/amavisd/clamd.pid /etc/amavisd/amaviisd.conf does not reference the clamd.pid, only the .sock and warns you to point it to the same place as in /etc/clamd.conf. But what gives with the pid file locations? I might think that in a base install the pid file would be pointed to the same place? Obviously, I have figured out I really need...