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I have two models, A and B, with a straightforward many-to-many has_many/through association between them. So, in A I have the association processed_bs and in B I have processedby_as. This works fine. Now, I would like to also have an association unprocessed_bs in A, which holds all Bs that _aren''t_ in processed_bs. I can write a method in A that returns all those objects as a list (using B.find(:all,:conditions)), but that''s an assymetric and not very pleasing solution. For example it means that I can to aobj.processed_bs.count but not aobj.unprocessed_bs.count. Which is...

Hey Keir, I committed the last of the big outstanding tools blockers for 4.2 yesterday. Currently they are still in staging because they added some new xenstore paths which tickled the leak detector in the test system What do you think of doing an rc0 release next week? There''s still some smaller issues remaining but I think they can wait until rc1. Ian.

Hi Tom and All, I have been quietly watching the list for the last year (no new issues for me that weren''t covered in the docs or promptly "bug-fixed" by Tom. Boy, has this grown exponentially! Anyway, back to the point (the proverbial rearranging the furniture)... I have been evaluating Mandrake''s MNF as an upgrade for my Firewall box. If I do this( and even if I