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2004 Mar 16
2
glm questions --- saturated model
...> if specified). Right? > > > > I can use the Null and Residual deviance to calculate the > "usual model > > Chi-squared" statistic > > -2[lnL(null) - lnL(fitted)]. > > > > But, just for curiosity's sake, what't the saturated model's -2lnL ? > > It's important to remember that lnL is defined only up to an additive > constant. For example a Poisson model has lnL contributions -mu + > y*log(mu) + constant, and the constant is arbitrary. The > differencing > in the deviance calculation eliminates it. What c...
2004 Mar 16
2
glm questions
...Null model is the one that includes the constant only (plus offset if specified). Right? I can use the Null and Residual deviance to calculate the "usual model Chi-squared" statistic -2[lnL(null) - lnL(fitted)]. But, just for curiosity's sake, what't the saturated model's -2lnL ? 2. Why no 'scaled deviance' in output? Or, how are you supposed to tell if there is over-dispersion? I just checked andSAS gives us the scaled and nonscaled deviance. I have read the Venables & Ripley (MASS 4ed) chapter on GLM . I believe I understand the cautionary point about...