samba - Feb 2025 - what diagnostic messages most need improving?

Hello,

sorry I sent it directly to Douglas instead of to the mailing-list.

Thanks and have a nice day, Matthias.

Am 12.02.25 um 08:16 schrieb Matthias K?hne | Ellerhold
Aktiengesellschaft:
> Hello Douglas,
>
> these error message are completly unusable for me:
>
> fileserver:
>
> [2025/02/10 11:37:20.074229,? 0] 
> source3/smbd/posix_acls.c:1093(unpack_nt_owners)
> ?? unpack_nt_owners: no security info sent !
>
> What should I do as an admin? Is it a problem of the underlying FS and 
> fixable by me or is the client sending something wrong?
>
>
> [2025/02/04 08:23:57.990336,? 0] 
> source4/dsdb/kcc/scavenge_dns_records.c:470(dns_delete_tombstones)
> ?? dns_delete_tombstones: The tombstoned dns node 
>
DC=mac-cqj0fqyvpw,DC=ad.ellerhold.lan,CN=MicrosoftDNS,DC=DomainDnsZones,DC=ad,DC=ellerhold,DC=lan
> has 123 dns records, expected one.
>
> These error message are there for more than a year. It does not auto 
> resolve itself. Running the expunge commands does nothing.
>
> What should I do as an admin?
>
>
> Thanks and have a nice day, Matthias.
>
>
> Am 07.02.25 um 00:25 schrieb Douglas Bagnall via samba:
>> hi Samba list
>>
>> I have heard a rumour that sometimes Samba produces incoherent error 
>> messages that don't tell you what is really wrong.
>>
>> I have some time to fix some of these. If you tell me your 
>> "favourites", I will see what I can do.
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>>
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On 13/02/25 00:05, Matthias K?hne | Ellerhold Aktiengesellschaft via samba
wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> sorry I sent it directly to Douglas instead of to the mailing-list.
> 
> Thanks and have a nice day, Matthias.
> 
> Am 12.02.25 um 08:16 schrieb Matthias K?hne | Ellerhold Aktiengesellschaft:
>> Hello Douglas,
>>
>> these error message are completly unusable for me:
>>
>> fileserver:
>>
>> [2025/02/10 11:37:20.074229,? 0] 
>> source3/smbd/posix_acls.c:1093(unpack_nt_owners)
>> ?? unpack_nt_owners: no security info sent !
>>
>> What should I do as an admin? Is it a problem of the underlying FS and 
>> fixable by me or is the client sending something wrong?
I can tell you the message has origins in a previous century, but this
case has not been considered an error since 2001 (commit
84cca757397dba107fde479bc2043d8412713cf7).

The commit message was "Don't fail if no owner/group owner set.
Use existing owners", which might be the explanation you need.

We should probably raise the log level.
>>
>> [2025/02/04 08:23:57.990336,? 0] 
>> source4/dsdb/kcc/scavenge_dns_records.c:470(dns_delete_tombstones)
>> ?? dns_delete_tombstones: The tombstoned dns node 
>>
DC=mac-cqj0fqyvpw,DC=ad.ellerhold.lan,CN=MicrosoftDNS,DC=DomainDnsZones,DC=ad,DC=ellerhold,DC=lan
>> has 123 dns records, expected one.
>>
>> These error message are there for more than a year. It does not auto 
>> resolve itself. Running the expunge commands does nothing.
Now I think this one relates to a rather baffling bug. You shouldn't
see it because it shouldn't happen, and I am not sure why it does.

Douglas