samba - Aug 2023 - Increase data length for SMB2 write and read requests for Windows 10 clients

On 8/21/23 22:55, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 03:19:59PM +0200, Ralph Boehme wrote:
>> On 8/21/23 11:53, Jones Syue ??? via samba wrote:
>>>> OH - that's *really* interesting ! I wonder how it is
>>>> changing the SMB3+ redirector to do this ?
>>>
>>> It looks like applications could do something and give a hint to
SMB3+
>>> redirector, so far not quite sure how to make it,
>>> per process monitor (procmon) could show that write I/O size seems
>>> could be pass from the application layers,
>>
>> well, sure, the application layer drives IO with the IO size it 
>> chooses. But when the application layer issues IOs larger then the 
>> maximum IO size allowed by SMB (8 MB iirc), the Windows SMB kernel 
>> client will segment the larger application segments into smaller ones.
> 
> Fastcopy is doing *something* weird :-).
> 
> 1. FastCopy (FastCopy.exe), 8MB (need to revise FastCopy default setup)
> Process Name??? Operation?????? Path??? Detail
> System? TCP Send??????? 10.19.7.63:64845 -> 10.19.250.98:445??? Length: 
> 8388724, startime: 3459115, endtime: 3459149, seqnum: 0, connid: 0
> System? TCP Receive???? 10.19.7.63:64845 -> 10.19.250.98:445??? Length: 
> 84, seqnum: 0, connid: 0
> FastCopy.exe??? WriteFile?????? \\10.19.250.98\Public\1GB.img?? Offset: 
> 92,274,688, Length: 8,388,608, Priority: Normal
> 
> I wonder if it has it's own SMB client code
> built in ?
> 
> Either that or it knows what parameters to change
> in the SMB redirector to request 8MB IO.
I don't get it. Iirc 8 MB is the default max io size the kernel client 
will use which is also, iirc, the limit of the protocol.

-slow

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On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 08:50:03AM +0200, Ralph Boehme
wrote:
>On 8/21/23 22:55, Jeremy Allison wrote:
>>On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 03:19:59PM +0200, Ralph Boehme wrote:
>>>On 8/21/23 11:53, Jones Syue ??? via samba wrote:
>>>>>OH - that's *really* interesting ! I wonder how it is
>>>>>changing the SMB3+ redirector to do this ?
>>>>
>>>>It looks like applications could do something and give a hint to
SMB3+
>>>>redirector, so far not quite sure how to make it,
>>>>per process monitor (procmon) could show that write I/O size
seems
>>>>could be pass from the application layers,
>>>
>>>well, sure, the application layer drives IO with the IO size it 
>>>chooses. But when the application layer issues IOs larger then the 
>>>maximum IO size allowed by SMB (8 MB iirc), the Windows SMB kernel 
>>>client will segment the larger application segments into smaller 
>>>ones.
>>
>>Fastcopy is doing *something* weird :-).
>>
>>1. FastCopy (FastCopy.exe), 8MB (need to revise FastCopy default setup)
>>Process Name??? Operation?????? Path??? Detail
>>System? TCP Send??????? 10.19.7.63:64845 -> 10.19.250.98:445??? 
>>Length: 8388724, startime: 3459115, endtime: 3459149, seqnum: 0, 
>>connid: 0
>>System? TCP Receive???? 10.19.7.63:64845 -> 10.19.250.98:445??? 
>>Length: 84, seqnum: 0, connid: 0
>>FastCopy.exe??? WriteFile?????? \\10.19.250.98\Public\1GB.img?? 
>>Offset: 92,274,688, Length: 8,388,608, Priority: Normal
>>
>>I wonder if it has it's own SMB client code
>>built in ?
>>
>>Either that or it knows what parameters to change
>>in the SMB redirector to request 8MB IO.
>
>I don't get it. Iirc 8 MB is the default max io size the kernel client 
>will use which is also, iirc, the limit of the protocol.
Don't get what ? The FastCopy.exe above is using 8MB write sizes.