samba - Jan 2021 - symlinks loop detection in Samba?

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 05:49:04PM +0000, Rowland penny via samba
wrote:
>On 19/01/2021 17:37, Jeremy Allison via samba wrote:
>>
>>Symlinks are a blight on a perfectly well designed filesystem. Once
>>the VFS work is finished, expect an epic rant (talk :-) I'm planning
>>to give :-). Not often I'll say this, but Microsoft got it right
>>in Windows on this point.
>>
>Which is why I never understood why the default for 'follow
symlinks'
>is 'yes'. I also cannot understand why 'allow insecure wide
links' was
>created, probably someone asked for it, but they should have been told 
>no.
History Rowland, ancient history. Once such things are in and
supported it's really hard to remove them again.

On 19/01/2021 17:54, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 05:49:04PM +0000, Rowland penny via samba wrote:
>> On 19/01/2021 17:37, Jeremy Allison via samba wrote:
>>>
>>> Symlinks are a blight on a perfectly well designed filesystem. Once
>>> the VFS work is finished, expect an epic rant (talk :-) I'm
planning
>>> to give :-). Not often I'll say this, but Microsoft got it
right
>>> in Windows on this point.
>>>
>> Which is why I never understood why the default for 'follow
symlinks'
>> is 'yes'. I also cannot understand why 'allow insecure wide
links'
>> was created, probably someone asked for it, but they should have been 
>> told no.
>
> History Rowland, ancient history. Once such things are in and
> supported it's really hard to remove them again.

Yes, I know, sigh,

Couldn't we just claim that they only work with SMBv1 and then remove 
them ?

Rowland