samba - Oct 2019 - minimum of 'server services' for NT style domain ?

On 09/10/2019 10:08, Rowland penny via samba wrote:
> On 09/10/2019 09:47, lejeczek via samba wrote:
>> On 09/10/2019 09:35, Rowland penny via samba wrote:
>>> On 09/10/2019 09:14, lejeczek via samba wrote:
>>>> hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> what would be an absolute minimum on the list of sevices one
should
>>>> have
>>>> for NT style domain? (userdb in separate LDAP, dns too is in
bind9)
>>>>
>>>> And maybe even less need for stand-alone server?
>>>>
>>>> many thanks, L.
>>>>
>>> I take it by 'services' you mean the 'smbd' ,
'nmbd' and 'winbindd'
>>> binaries, if so, then you only need the 'smbd' &
'nmbd' binaries on
>>> both.
>>>
>>> You do not need dns with an NT4-style domain, it uses netbios
instead.
>> I meant it as I wrote it 'server services' - as a param in
smb.conf
>
> You didn't write 'server services', you said:
friendly advice: read the subjects carefully as you do with the body of
the messages
>
> list of sevices one should have for NT style domain?
>
> If it is an NT4-style domain, then the answer to your new question is
> none, you shouldn't have the parameter 'server services' in a
PDC
> smb.conf.
If it's not there then testparm shows long list of 'server services'
and
I'd think, since NT-style is lot more basic, not all are needed there.

I know I do not need dns, dnsupdate, winbindd but I imagine more can be
switched off.

And maybe even less is needed for stand-alone server?

many thanks, L.
>
>>> Can I stress how important it is that anyone who is still using an
>>> NT4-style domain upgrades to AD. From Samba 4.11.0, they will no
>>> longer work by default, though you can reconfigure smb.conf to keep
>>> them working.
>>>
>>> Rowland
>>>
>>>
>> Do not stress it, don't bother, save yourself time & energy. I
assume
>> everybodyyy! knows it only some of us can't do so.
> I repeat, upgrade, even if you think you cannot do so, one of these
> days, it might not work any more.
>
> Rowland
>
>
>

On 09/10/2019 10:56, lejeczek via samba wrote:
> friendly advice: read the subjects carefully as you do with the body of
> the messages
Even friendlier advice, ask the question in the post ;-)
>> list of sevices one should have for NT style domain?
>>
>> If it is an NT4-style domain, then the answer to your new question is
>> none, you shouldn't have the parameter 'server services' in
a PDC
>> smb.conf.
> If it's not there then testparm shows long list of 'server
services' and
> I'd think, since NT-style is lot more basic, not all are needed there.
If testparm is showing 'server services',? then either it is a bug 
(which is unlikely to be fixed) or your smb.conf is leading testparm to 
think it may be an AD DC.

You do not need a 'server services' line in an NT4-style PDC smb.conf

Rowland

On 09/10/2019 11:27, Rowland penny via samba wrote:
> On 09/10/2019 10:56, lejeczek via samba wrote:
>> friendly advice: read the subjects carefully as you do with the body of
>> the messages
> Even friendlier advice, ask the question in the post ;-)
neutral remark - everybody has, including myself, but gee man... you
have some issues... to solve.

cheers, L.
>>> list of sevices one should have for NT style domain?
>>>
>>> If it is an NT4-style domain, then the answer to your new question
is
>>> none, you shouldn't have the parameter 'server
services' in a PDC
>>> smb.conf.
>> If it's not there then testparm shows long list of 'server
services' and
>> I'd think, since NT-style is lot more basic, not all are needed
there.
> If testparm is showing 'server services',? then either it is a bug
> (which is unlikely to be fixed) or your smb.conf is leading testparm
> to think it may be an AD DC.
>
> You do not need a 'server services' line in an NT4-style PDC
smb.conf
>
> Rowland
>
>
>