samba - Aug 2017 - Friendly Reminder: Would you please comment on my findings?

Hi again,

Am 18.08.2017 um 19:56 schrieb Jeremy Allison:
> Andreas, you're a nice guy and all but I feel you didn't
> read the part of my message about the "best-effort" status of
this list.
so do you mean that your "best efforts" are simply not sufficient to 
look into this at all (i.e. never ever)? My way of reading your 
statement was that your "best effort basis" meant that it might just 
take some more time, maybe much more.

I also would like to point out that I don't think that looking into this 
is a service only to me, but looking into this interesting issue and 
addressing this with Microsoft would be a valuable service to every user 
of SMB2/3 with a Microsoft client and Samba server.

So maybe if it's not going to be you in person, is there *anybody else* 
from the Samba team who is able to adopt this and take a look into this 
on his/her best efforts' basis any time (more or less) soon?

Thanks again & best regards
Andreas

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 08:09:00PM +0200, awl1 wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> Am 18.08.2017 um 19:56 schrieb Jeremy Allison:
> >Andreas, you're a nice guy and all but I feel you didn't
> >read the part of my message about the "best-effort" status of
this list.
> 
> so do you mean that your "best efforts" are simply not sufficient
to
> look into this at all (i.e. never ever)? My way of reading your
> statement was that your "best effort basis" meant that it might
just
> take some more time, maybe much more.
> 
> I also would like to point out that I don't think that looking into
> this is a service only to me, but looking into this interesting
> issue and addressing this with Microsoft would be a valuable service
> to every user of SMB2/3 with a Microsoft client and Samba server.
> 
> So maybe if it's not going to be you in person, is there *anybody
> else* from the Samba team who is able to adopt this and take a look
> into this on his/her best efforts' basis any time (more or less)
> soon?
What I mean is what you're asking is interesting, and I
might get time to look at this, but I can't give any
guarentees. Work priorities and any security issues always
have to come first.

If people *need* a guaranteed response time there are
companies findable via the Samba web site who will
provide this for a fee.

To be blunt: "Give me a time when this will be done ?"
equates to "Pay me money to fix this."

If you think about the above you will understand why
this is not an unreasonable request for Samba supporting
companies.

Note that this doesn't apply to me, as Google (my employer)
isn't in the business of providing generic Samba support
so I'm not asking for your money, and couldn't take any
if you did offer it :-).

Hi again, Jeremy, and
hi to all commercial customers of Samba supporting companies on this 
list, ;-)

Am 18.08.2017 um 20:18 schrieb Jeremy Allison:
> What I mean is what you're asking is interesting, and I might get time 
> to look at this, but I can't give any guarentees. Work priorities and 
> any security issues always have to come first. If people *need* a 
> guaranteed response time there are companies findable via the Samba 
> web site who will provide this for a fee. To be blunt: "Give me a time
> when this will be done ?" equates to "Pay me money to fix
this."
as I am an individual not backed by any company (using Samba on my 
private home office NAS, and my employer is completely unrelated to 
issues with my personal NAS) the only thing that I could possibly offer 
is a limited individual donation to the Samba team.

Also, I don't even have any particular deadline requirements, it's 
simply that everybody (including me) is trying to move away from SMB1 
now for mainly security, but also a lot of other reasons, and when 
trying to do so, I immediately ran into what seems to be a huge 
performance regression issue - which notably is not even an issue in 
Samba itself, but rather in Microsoft's SMB2/3 client -, so I am really 
wondering why this does not seem to affect/get into the way of anybody 
else except me - such as other people/companies on this list with a 
Samba service contract...!? ;-)

Most probably, many end users are so used to bad performance when it 
comes to Microsoft software that they don't even realize that copying a 
huge number of small files to/from a Samba share through Gigabit 
Ethernet must be possible with speeds above 10kB per second!? :-(

So maybe there is anybody out there with a support contract who has also 
noticed that copying a huge number of small files onto or from a Samba 
share has slowed down considerably when movig from SMB1 to SMB2/3 by 
upgrading their Samba server from 3.x to 4.x?
Otherwise, please advise whether an individual donation to the Samba 
project might be helpful...

Thanks & best regards
Andreas