samba - May 2017 - join W10-PCs to NT4-based samba-domain?

As you may remember I went through a classic-upgrade a few months ago.

I have a second domain to migrate and I am again/still scared to attack
that ;-)

As I prepare my test VM and try to remember all those details the
customer has purchase 2 new Windows 10 PCs and I was asked to take them
into production.

Is there a way to join them to the existing NT4-based Samba-domain or not?

I find various results online and wonder if it's possible and if I have
to prepare specific things for doing that (registry changes?)

Thanks for an up to date statement on this,
Stefan

ps: I already tried that join 2 weeks ago and wasn't successful ...

On Mon, 15 May 2017 13:25:03 +0200
"Stefan G. Weichinger via samba" <samba at lists.samba.org>
wrote:
> 
> As you may remember I went through a classic-upgrade a few months ago.
> 
> I have a second domain to migrate and I am again/still scared to
> attack that ;-)
> 
> As I prepare my test VM and try to remember all those details the
> customer has purchase 2 new Windows 10 PCs and I was asked to take
> them into production.
> 
> Is there a way to join them to the existing NT4-based Samba-domain or
> not?
> 
> I find various results online and wonder if it's possible and if I
> have to prepare specific things for doing that (registry changes?)
> 
> Thanks for an up to date statement on this,
> Stefan
> 
> ps: I already tried that join 2 weeks ago and wasn't successful ...
> 
> 
Windows doesn't support joining Windows 7 to an NT4-style domain, so
they definitely won't support windows 10.

You may find a way around this lack of Microsoft support, you may also
find that a subsequent Windows update stops it working again.

I really think that it is time that anybody still running an NT4-style
domain starts making plans to upgrade to AD.

Just look what has happened over the weekend with wanacry and XP.
Support for XP & Vista has ended, 7 is in extended support, you really
need to be running supported systems.

Rowland

Am 2017-05-15 um 14:06 schrieb Rowland Penny via samba:
> Windows doesn't support joining Windows 7 to an NT4-style domain, so
> they definitely won't support windows 10.
Well, I joined Win7 to NT4-domain back then ... (reg-hack, but anyway)
> You may find a way around this lack of Microsoft support, you may also
> find that a subsequent Windows update stops it working again.
> 
> I really think that it is time that anybody still running an NT4-style
> domain starts making plans to upgrade to AD.
I am on my way, sure!
> Just look what has happened over the weekend with wanacry and XP.
> Support for XP & Vista has ended, 7 is in extended support, you really
> need to be running supported systems.
Yes, I agree. Just wanted to take out the pressure a bit.
I now prepare the classic-upgrade within a test VM

On 05/15/17 08:06, Rowland Penny via samba wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2017 13:25:03 +0200
> "Stefan G. Weichinger via samba" <samba at lists.samba.org>
wrote:
>
>> As you may remember I went through a classic-upgrade a few months ago.
>>
>> I have a second domain to migrate and I am again/still scared to
>> attack that ;-)
>>
>> As I prepare my test VM and try to remember all those details the
>> customer has purchase 2 new Windows 10 PCs and I was asked to take
>> them into production.
>>
>> Is there a way to join them to the existing NT4-based Samba-domain or
>> not?
>>
>> I find various results online and wonder if it's possible and if I
>> have to prepare specific things for doing that (registry changes?)
>>
>> Thanks for an up to date statement on this,
>> Stefan
>>
>> ps: I already tried that join 2 weeks ago and wasn't successful ...
>>
>>
> Windows doesn't support joining Windows 7 to an NT4-style domain, so
> they definitely won't support windows 10.
>
> You may find a way around this lack of Microsoft support, you may also
> find that a subsequent Windows update stops it working again.
>
> I really think that it is time that anybody still running an NT4-style
> domain starts making plans to upgrade to AD.
>
> Just look what has happened over the weekend with wanacry and XP.
> Support for XP & Vista has ended, 7 is in extended support, you really
> need to be running supported systems.
>
> Rowland
>
>   
>
Windows 7 may not be able to join to a true NT4 domain.  However you can 
(at least you good) set up a Samba  BDC in an NT4 domain and net vampire 
the accounts from the NT4 DC.     Windows 7 can join an "classic" 
domain.     Windows 10 can join a classic domain (with signandseal 
registry change) BUT you have to disable SMB3 on Samba.