> One thing jumps out here: > > doing parameter server services = s3fs, rpc, wrepl, ldap, cldap, kdc, > drepl, winbindd, ntp_signd, kcc, dnsupdate > > What happened to 'nbt' ?? > > Rowlandadded that to services and solved the problem, i must have removed it when i was removing all unnecessary services like sssd and autofs and a few other things from my samba ad install script so that the server would be a domain controller and nothing else. thanks for the solution shadrock