Steve Ankeny
2016-Sep-28 13:11 UTC
[Samba] Upgrading samba from source over debian packages
On 09/28/2016 08:13 AM, Rowland Penny via samba wrote:> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 07:00:17 -0500 > Bob of Donelson Trophy via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote: > >> On 2016-09-28 06:41, Rowland Penny via samba wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 06:29:00 -0500 >>> Bob of Donelson Trophy via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote: >>> >>> On 2016-09-28 01:04, Marc Muehlfeld via samba wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Am 27.09.2016 um 21:14 schrieb Elias Pereira via samba: >>> >>> Maybe, it would be nice to put on the wiki that step regarding >>> uninstall the old packages version. I believe that a good portion >>> of users unaware that step. :) >>> I only can add a general and installation, because distros have >>> different package managers and you can run into dependencies >>> problems. For example, when you uninstall Samba, cifs-utils is also >>> automatically removed - even if you don't want to compile this >>> yourself. >>> >>> I will see if I find a place where this general information fits >>> tonight. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Marc >> Out of curiosity I ran "apt remove samba" on Ubuntu 16.04.1LTS and >> removal adds "winbind" packages "will be REMOVED" even though I don't >> want to remove winbind. So, " . . . because distros have different >> package managers and you can run into dependencies problems." yes, I >> understand you reluctance to adding "uninstall" instructions in the >> wiki. IMHO, this is actually a distro related issue. >> >> Marc, you probably already know this but, I just thought everyone >> should be aware. I have also seen different types of distro related >> issues, like this, in CentOS and Fedora experiments where package >> manager is going to un-install and/or install some package due to >> dependency requirements. >> >> Bob, if you removing Samba to compile your own version, then it >> doesn't matter that winbind is also removed, compiling Samba also >> provides winbind. >> >> Rowland >> >> Thanks. I was just accelerated my searching to find the "that" answer. >> > Bob, if you run ./configure --help in the base of an unpacked Samba > tarball, you will get a list of options that can be passed to the > compile, amongst these are the places to put various parts of Samba. If > you do not set any of these, Samba will be installed > to /usr/local/samba and when I say Samba, I mean all of Samba, the > binaries and libraries etc, you get uptodate versions of ldb, tdb, > tevent etc. > > The problem comes if you are trying to upgrade from a > distro package, these scatter Samba in several places and you will need > to find a way to move thing like sam.ldb to the correct place. > The easiest way would be to set up another DC joined to the domain and > then demote and remove the original DC. > > Rowland >And, if I'm understanding you correctly, I could have Samba AD 4.3.8 installed from the Ubuntu repository, build Samba 4.5.1 from source on a second server, let it replicate as a second AD DC, then demote the original? That's a neat way to move from an older version to a new!
Bob of Donelson Trophy
2016-Sep-28 13:57 UTC
[Samba] Upgrading samba from source over debian packages
On 2016-09-28 08:11, Steve Ankeny via samba wrote:> On 09/28/2016 08:13 AM, Rowland Penny via samba wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 07:00:17 -0500 > Bob of Donelson Trophy via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote: > > On 2016-09-28 06:41, Rowland Penny via samba wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 06:29:00 -0500 > Bob of Donelson Trophy via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote: > > On 2016-09-28 01:04, Marc Muehlfeld via samba wrote: > > Hi, > > Am 27.09.2016 um 21:14 schrieb Elias Pereira via samba: > > Maybe, it would be nice to put on the wiki that step regarding > uninstall the old packages version. I believe that a good portion > of users unaware that step. :) > I only can add a general and installation, because distros have > different package managers and you can run into dependencies > problems. For example, when you uninstall Samba, cifs-utils is also > automatically removed - even if you don't want to compile this > yourself. > > I will see if I find a place where this general information fits > tonight. > > Regards, > Marc Out of curiosity I ran "apt remove samba" on Ubuntu 16.04.1LTS and > removal adds "winbind" packages "will be REMOVED" even though I don't > want to remove winbind. So, " . . . because distros have different > package managers and you can run into dependencies problems." yes, I > understand you reluctance to adding "uninstall" instructions in the > wiki. IMHO, this is actually a distro related issue. > > Marc, you probably already know this but, I just thought everyone > should be aware. I have also seen different types of distro related > issues, like this, in CentOS and Fedora experiments where package > manager is going to un-install and/or install some package due to > dependency requirements. > > Bob, if you removing Samba to compile your own version, then it > doesn't matter that winbind is also removed, compiling Samba also > provides winbind. > > Rowland > > Thanks. I was just accelerated my searching to find the "that" answer.Bob, if you run ./configure --help in the base of an unpacked Samba tarball, you will get a list of options that can be passed to the compile, amongst these are the places to put various parts of Samba. If you do not set any of these, Samba will be installed to /usr/local/samba and when I say Samba, I mean all of Samba, the binaries and libraries etc, you get uptodate versions of ldb, tdb, tevent etc. The problem comes if you are trying to upgrade from a distro package, these scatter Samba in several places and you will need to find a way to move thing like sam.ldb to the correct place. The easiest way would be to set up another DC joined to the domain and then demote and remove the original DC. Rowland And, if I'm understanding you correctly, I could have Samba AD 4.3.8 installed from the Ubuntu repository, build Samba 4.5.1 from source on a second server, let it replicate as a second AD DC, then demote the original? That's a neat way to move from an older version to a new! Loosely, that's my plan . . . -- _______________________________ Bob Wooden of Donelson Trophy
Reindl Harald
2016-Sep-28 14:05 UTC
[Samba] Upgrading samba from source over debian packages
Am 28.09.2016 um 15:57 schrieb Bob of Donelson Trophy via samba: can you please fix your quoting so the part you are responding do does not appear like it's part of your new answer? is roundcube that broken or are you using first "forward message" and then edit the subject?